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Chris333

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Tilt release
« on: July 19, 2024, 09:01:58 AM »
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Does anyone here have a printer with the new tilt release. This is where the whole vat tilts down to pull down away from the build plate instead of the build plate pulling up.

Just wondering if this helps the problems with the FEP tensions at all?

When the build plate pulls up it is straight up. When the vat tilts down it is at an angle. They do this for speed and I could care less about that, but if it helps lessen the warps from changing FEP tension then it would be worth a try. Just noticed my latest printer has a new version with this feature, lol.


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Re: Tilt release
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2024, 10:56:52 AM »
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Interesting.

If I had this printer I would rotate the print 45 degrees about the vertical axis so that the FEP "peel" starts in a very small surface area like a corner instead along a long straight edge.

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Re: Tilt release
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2024, 02:16:07 PM »
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Everyone on Youtube says the reason for the tilt is reduced FEP tension so less print fails. But pulling down or pulling up is still pulling. How does one way take less effort? Not worried about failed prints.


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Re: Tilt release
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2024, 08:42:58 PM »
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I think the idea is that it pulls away from the build plate at an angle.  So, like peeling a failed print off the FEP, it's easier to start in a corner and peel away as opposed to pulling up in the middle where all that surface area is fighting you.  The only thing I worry about is that it adds complexity to the mechanics of printing but I have to assume they've tested it plenty and it's robust enough for the lifetime of the printer.

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Re: Tilt release
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2024, 08:01:41 PM »
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Well usually I would be posting right now that I ordered the printer  :)  But I just don't know if there is any improvement. The self leveling plate looks like it will collect a ton of resin around the springs. The way the plate locks to the rail seems like there is no good way to grab it.

I know someone who ordered a Saturn 4 printer with the tilt vat. So I'm just going to hold out and see how his stuff turns out. I can even send him supported files to directly compare.

The Mars 5 Ultra is faster than my Mars 4, but while that is nice, I just don't really care how fast it is. The Mars 5 lets you print 8 test pieces at the same time with a different exposure on each one. This seems cool, but not alone worth buying a new printer.

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Re: Tilt release
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2024, 08:11:56 AM »
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Prusa had tilting technology on their 3D resin printer years ago.  Of course, it cost well over $1000.00, but you get what you pay for...