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Lizard Head Pass Snow Shed in HOn3
« on: January 15, 2024, 10:54:45 PM »
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One thing that my HOn3 layout has been conspicuously missing is the massive wooden snowshed atop 10,246-foot Lizard Head Pass (although the railroad gleefully advertised "10,500 feet"). My Lizard Head scene contains all the other elements, including the structures and snow fences (and even Lizard Head Peak itself transported to the opposite side of the track because Rule #1). But the lack of snow shed makes it look like some other freelanced scene:



The real snowshed covered an entire turning wye and once extended well past the section house (until a 1939 fire cut it back). It included a covered passing siding as well. Thankfully I didn't model the wye and I can save myself hundreds of dollars in stripwood and who knows hoe many hours.







I thought about making a styrene box and sheathing the outside. I thought about a lot of ways to avoid the work of building it stick by stick like the real thing. But I got to thinking about how it would look from a flatcar cube cam...and concluded the only way to do it is stick by stick, just like the prototype. That way, little shafts of light will filter in just like the real thing.

So, with hundreds of photos and the advice of other modelers who have tackled the shed, I started drawing my plan.



The shed will end up some 26 inches long or so. The double-track end will be 32 scale feet wide (one scale foot wider on each side than the prototype) and the walls 22' high (2 scale feet higher than the prototype, minus one foot for the sills sitting below grade). The posts are 1/8" dowel (roughly 12" diameter in HO) and the sills and rafters 12 x 12. The siding is 2 x 12 x 16. There will be 2 x 6 sway braces and 6 x 6 stringer rafters. When I get to the roof, there are a few cantilevered sections known as "strongbacks" that help keep the walls together where the roof is really wide but there's not enough clearance between the tracks for the center wall.

As of tonight, I have the framing for a 72-foot section of one outer wall and a center wall. The two 12 x 12 rafters are resting in place so they're not perfectly aligned.



Wish me luck. I'm waiting on what I fear is only the first shipment of 2 x 12 and 2 x 6 from Canada...

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Re: Lizard Head Pass Snow Shed in HOn3
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2024, 11:02:28 PM »
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Dave, with admittedly zero knowledge of the prototype, is the siding not staggered so that all of the joints don’t fall on the same posts?
Staggered joints would add strength, but maybe that’s not how it was done.
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Re: Lizard Head Pass Snow Shed in HOn3
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2024, 11:07:03 PM »
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Dave, with admittedly zero knowledge of the prototype, is the siding not staggered so that all of the joints don’t fall on the same posts?
Staggered joints would add strength, but maybe that’s not how it was done.

No, you'd think, right? But if you look at photos you see clearly that they were lined up in a panel-like configuration, 16' long (the posts are on 8' centers). That said, I will be staggering for strength with many of the planks being 32' but scored at 16' and stained differently.

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Re: Lizard Head Pass Snow Shed in HOn3
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2024, 10:24:08 AM »
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Looks like you have a great start on this project Dave. Are you making any videos for this build for your YouTube channel? Just thought I would ask. Thanks for the update!!

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Re: Lizard Head Pass Snow Shed in HOn3
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2024, 10:40:35 AM »
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Looks like you have a great start on this project Dave. Are you making any videos for this build for your YouTube channel? Just thought I would ask. Thanks for the update!!

No... I appreciate people who do build videos. I just don't work methodically (or neatly) enough to turn what I do into a video...unless it were a blooper reel.

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Re: Lizard Head Pass Snow Shed in HOn3
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2024, 11:53:56 AM »
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Stay tuned because I got some new information about the measurements of the shed and it looks like I'm still too tall here. So I may be trimming down those posts a tad again.

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Re: Lizard Head Pass Snow Shed in HOn3
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2024, 12:47:33 PM »
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No... I appreciate people who do build videos. I just don't work methodically (or neatly) enough to turn what I do into a video...unless it were a blooper reel.

No problem!! I could never do it, that is for sure.

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Re: Lizard Head Pass Snow Shed in HOn3
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2024, 10:20:35 PM »
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I decided to bring the wall height down quite a bit through the help I received from some of the RGS guys over on Facebook. You see two things going on in this picture. One's a mock-up of the southwest portal (from which I determined the side walls were still too high) which will not be included in the final structure. The other is the start of the northwest outside wall in its full length.


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Re: Lizard Head Pass Snow Shed in HOn3
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2024, 10:33:37 PM »
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Looks awesome Dave!! It looks like you will have a real nice model when you are done. :)

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Re: Lizard Head Pass Snow Shed in HOn3
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2024, 09:02:18 PM »
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Re: Lizard Head Pass Snow Shed in HOn3
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2024, 09:17:45 PM »
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Nice work train  ;)

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Re: Lizard Head Pass Snow Shed in HOn3
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2024, 10:25:52 PM »
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Fantastic!!

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Re: Lizard Head Pass Snow Shed in HOn3
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2024, 09:11:25 PM »
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Starting in on the roof beams. On top of those go the longitudinal rafters. Where the beams straddle the diverging route and there's too much span for an unsupported beam, there will be a roof truss structure called a "strongback."

There's still a long, long way to go.


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Re: Lizard Head Pass Snow Shed in HOn3
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2024, 09:58:18 PM »
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Re: Lizard Head Pass Snow Shed in HOn3
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2024, 01:07:44 PM »
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Dave, That's going to look very nice when completed. Very nice work!! :)