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Jim Starbuck

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GE 25 Tonner build
« on: August 25, 2023, 10:38:51 PM »
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The latest addition to the critter fleet is this GE 25 Tonner.
The shell is Damin Keegan’s excellent design from Shapeways and the mechanism is a modified 12mm axle space geared turnback drive from Narrow Garage Japan. Thanks @Chris333 and @u18b for the links to the mechanisms. The chassis is 3D printed and nicely done.

I’ve had this shell for well over a year and had started powering it using a Bachmann 44/70 tonner truck. The axle spacing was right but the gear tower was centered and I was trying to use a shorter motor without much success. When I saw the link to the Narrow Garage chassis and his drawings showed the main part of the drive at 6mm width I knew it would work. The inside of the shell measures just over 6mm.

The drive comes with a 10mm motor so I remotored it with a 6x15 coreless. The shaft on the coreless is smaller than the stock one so I made a bushing that ended up only .004” wall thickness but it worked.
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I shortened the chassis and added a styrene cradle for the new motor. Photo shows the stock chassis on the left.
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I changed the stock wheels to ESM at first but ended up changing those to Tangent 36”. The stock wheels have a metal hub which rides in the 3D printed frame so I turned down bushings from brass stock to go over the now half axle wheels.
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I needed a way to hold the shell to the chassis so brass angles were glued to the squared up ends of the lower chassis section. The notch in the brass is where the coupler screw passes by. I milled the shell so the bottom of the angle was flush with the top of the coupler opening. Screwing the coupler to the shell traps the brass angle holding everything together and establishes shell and coupler height. The shell is printed with the screw holes already in it so I tapped them for 00/90 screws.
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The ground pad on the ESU Lokpilot Micro is about the size of a pinhead and it’s difficult to keep the solder joint from breaking. My remedy was to lay the wire so it exits the decoder opposite the stock wires then hot glue the capacitor side of the TCS KA-N1 keep alive to the decoder. This traps the ground wire to avoid breaking the solder joint and still makes a compact electronics package.
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Some thin double sided tape holds the decoder and keep alive vertical and it just fit up in the cab after scraping some thickness out of the cab ceiling.
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Since I was freestylin’ this one anyway I used elements from multiple prototype photos. I thought the external air cleaner on the hood was cool so I made one from brass. Railings are .008” phosphor bronze wire and the air whistle is a piece of brass wire drilled to accept an .008 wire “pipe”.
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Re: GE 25 Tonner build
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2023, 10:50:25 PM »
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The shell was primed with Mr Surfacer gray. The paint is Tamiya Flat yellow with some orange mixed in. The black is Tamiya NATO black.
Decals were printed on my Alps then everything was sealed with Mr Hobby Matt clear.
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A few added details were brass wire for the exhaust stack, brass trainline hoses, BLMA windshield wipers and scratchbuilt cut levers.
The lights are 0201 LEDs.

A huge thanks goes out to John @oakcreekco for hooking me up with the Kato semiautomatic couplers. They fit up beautifully.

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It runs nicely albeit a bit noisy. I suspect from the extra gearing but is slows down well and crawls through Unitrack switches. It will move 5 or 6 cars without problems.

Here’s a short video:

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Re: GE 25 Tonner build
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2023, 10:52:25 PM »
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WOW!
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Re: GE 25 Tonner build
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2023, 10:55:46 PM »
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Damn , and thats over turnouts .


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Re: GE 25 Tonner build
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2023, 12:03:02 AM »
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Impressive is an understatement, Jim!

And to think I'm proud of my abilities when I assemble an MT coupler  :facepalm:

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Re: GE 25 Tonner build
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2023, 12:36:56 AM »
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I love it Jim.
Very well done.

And the cab is still open. 

What a great locomotive.
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Re: GE 25 Tonner build
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2023, 12:39:39 AM »
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Absolutely incredible!

When are they going to be available? (JUST KIDDING!)
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Re: GE 25 Tonner build
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2023, 04:16:26 AM »
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After your last tiny loco I thought you needed a harder challenge, I had the 25 tonner in mind but here you have done just that. I'll have to find something smaller for you to make  :D :D

Massive ups to you for doing this so well!!

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Re: GE 25 Tonner build
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2023, 04:32:09 AM »
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Jim, this is the best I can come up with:

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/bnsf_trackmobile.jpg

Probably not smaller but it is trickier  :D

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Re: GE 25 Tonner build
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2023, 04:54:50 AM »
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Thank you for kind words gentlemen. Hi praise indeed coming from this group.
This was just my own spin on a 25 tonner. @randgust scratch built his probably 15 years ago. He also has a Trackmobile and Burro crane that run. I’m also inspired by Ron’s hi-rail truck, Max’s Stephenson Rocket and @Chris333”s various critters. @bbunge recently posted photos of his 25 tonner as well. I’m wading into some very good company here.
@kiwi_al, I’ve got several more smallsters in the queue. Stay tuned…
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Re: GE 25 Tonner build
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2023, 05:05:29 AM »
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Rereading my original post I realized I left out a couple photos.
The motor turns an intermediate gear that in turn drives the worm shaft
The shaft rides in bushings at either end.
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There was some room in the shell above the motor which got filled with tungsten powder. I also fit wafers of lead in the cheeks of the cab.
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It weighs in at .463 ounces/ 13.13 grams. It will handle 3 or 4 40’ MT gondolas and 5 or 6 empty 33’ two bay hoppers.
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Re: GE 25 Tonner build
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2023, 02:09:30 PM »
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Looks and runs great! :o

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Re: GE 25 Tonner build
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2023, 06:12:59 PM »
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Dang, he does it again! : :o
Just beautiful, Jim
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« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2023, 06:14:25 PM »
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Dang, he does it again! : :o
Just beautiful, Jim
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