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EM-1 bash job
« on: July 30, 2023, 05:07:21 PM »
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I am thinking that, with a great deal of massaging, engineering that the B'man EM-1 might be a good starting point to bash this triplex. Not too concerned about how accurate, such as driver diameters or such. An individual engine is, or was, available from parts dpt., just thinking out loud. Smell the saw dust burning? ?

Any thoughts or comments,
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Re: EM-1 bash job
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2023, 05:24:24 PM »
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But the triplex was a failure and the EM-1's kept going till the end.

I mean I like a triplex, but it was built around 1915ish and only lasted 2-3 years.

I say go for this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triplex_locomotive#/media/File:Baldwin_quad_patent_dwg.gif
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Re: EM-1 bash job
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2023, 06:04:55 PM »
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There’s one being built on Facebook N Scale Railbaron group.

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Re: EM-1 bash job
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2023, 06:51:59 PM »
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Give it a shot..

I've got a couple of Kato 2-8-2 drives that I thought about using to create an ACE 3000 type of a thing

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Re: EM-1 bash job
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2023, 07:13:31 PM »
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But the triplex was a failure and the EM-1's kept going till the end.

I mean I like a triplex, but it was built around 1915ish and only lasted 2-3 years.

I say go for this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triplex_locomotive#/media/File:Baldwin_quad_patent_dwg.gif

Ahhhh Chris.
It's not about prototypical reliability.

It's about:

the cool factor.   8)
no one else has done it   :D
And can it even be done in N?   :scared:

I would love to have a C&O monster steam turbine for the same reason.   :trollface:
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Re: EM-1 bash job
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2023, 10:10:14 PM »
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It's about:

the cool factor.   8)
no one else has done it   :D
And can it even be done in N?   :scared:

Exactly Ron, it does not have to be extremely "prototypical"! It would be just for fun.

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Re: EM-1 bash job
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2023, 10:44:35 PM »
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If we're brainstorming just for fun, if you started with a Kato Big Boy, that third driving set could be powered.  The sections are stand alone drive sets. I triplex from that might be simpler.

Although, if it were me and money didn't matter, I might consider a double-ended Big Boy with a single, articulated cab in the middle. a 4-8-8-8-8-4  It's already an oil burner, so like SP cab forwards, the tender doesn't need to be connected to the cab. 
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Re: EM-1 bash job
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2023, 06:52:28 AM »
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Re: EM-1 bash job
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2023, 10:37:36 AM »
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Erie's actually did operate.  It is debatable whether or not anyone could call them "successful".  The Erie men used to say about them "Alotta' legs and no steam."

Virginian's never made a successful trip. It went back to the builder which converted it into two locomotives both of which lasted until the early 1950s.

For modelling purposes, though, it would draw attention.  Even the most staunch brickhead would watch it run.

The B-mann would make an excellent starting point if for no other reason than that the slow speed control on the thing is excellent, even on non-pulsed DC.  The prototype could not run at speeds much above ten miles/sixteen kilometers per hour or it would run out of steam.

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Re: EM-1 bash job
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2023, 10:38:58 AM »
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Yes, that video is of Ernie Julian's model. Member @UP4-8-8-4.

Borrowed Ernie's pic from Facebook, he is in the detailing stages. He is bashing 2 LL Y3b chassis:



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Re: EM-1 bash job
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2023, 01:07:23 PM »
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Get yourself a copy of this: https://nrail.org/Sys/Store/Products/58691

Steve Dennison did one out of the LL/Walthers 2-8-8-2.


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Re: EM-1 bash job
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2023, 02:10:37 PM »
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The Virginian triplex was a spectacular failure.  :lol:

It was built with pusher service in mind in December 1916 and arrived on the property in January 1917. It was tested for several years before it was returned to Baldwin (in 1920) to be dismantled and built into two locomotives (#'s 610 and 410).

Even with a top speed of about 5 or 6 mph, as noted above - it often could not generate enough steam.



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Re: EM-1 bash job
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2023, 11:00:01 PM »
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Get yourself a copy of this: https://nrail.org/Sys/Store/Products/58691

Steve Dennison did one out of the LL/Walthers 2-8-8-2.

Thanks Ed, I do have that book and have studied that article a few times. Walthers Y3, where to find any today ?

BTW, the 2015 edition of the NTrak Steam book had an article about my B'man/Jason Smith EM-1/AC-9 bash job.
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Re: EM-1 bash job
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2023, 04:06:29 PM »
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Using Kato mechanism will  likely result in some speed matching problem of the loco's and tender's engines.
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Re: EM-1 bash job
« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2023, 07:58:57 PM »
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I been really giving thought of using on of my four EM-1 to do a SP AC-9. I just haven't dove into it because the EM-1 are so beautifull that I'm having a hard time sacrificing one for the job. I know I can do the work however.