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Is it me, or is this a Jade Green Flexi-Van???
« on: January 27, 2023, 07:34:26 PM »
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With the obviously white car on the right, and the white lettering on the car.. I'm thinking yes?

Although the number PC 9752 is interesting because...


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Re: Is it me, or is this a Jade Green Flexi-Van???
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2023, 10:07:52 PM »
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You mean the car?  Seems to be.

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Re: Is it me, or is this a Jade Green Flexi-Van???
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2023, 10:32:45 PM »
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Looks like a Penn Central (copulating worms?) logo to me.  I think the road number is 3752.
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Re: Is it me, or is this a Jade Green Flexi-Van???
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2023, 11:10:05 PM »
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Looks like a Penn Central (copulating worms?) logo to me.  I think the road number is 3752.

Definitely a PC logo there. Agree it's 3752 (or 5752).

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Re: Is it me, or is this a Jade Green Flexi-Van???
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2023, 07:04:52 PM »
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Am I missing an inside joke?  Why can't it be PC 9752? (which is what I see painted on it)

Perhaps not the most accurate source, but from here:

https://www.thedieselshop.us/PennCentral.HTML (scroll down to get to switchers)

original PC number

9733-9765*    --    Alco S4    23    Ex-NYC 8600 series
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Re: Is it me, or is this a Jade Green Flexi-Van???
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2023, 07:22:26 PM »
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We were guessing the road number of the Flexi Van.
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Re: Is it me, or is this a Jade Green Flexi-Van???
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2023, 07:35:27 PM »
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I know nothing about the PC...

July '69 ORER shows PC Mark III Flexi-vans are series 776001 to 776460, total of 106 cars. There are other "Flat, Steel, Twin Van Body" listed, which I suspect are also Flexi-Van, but there is no data to support that in the ORER. Those series are in ranges 775100-775200, 775203-775258, and 777419-777525.

There are no significant changes in the Jan '70 ORER, save for more car numbers (of the Mark IIIs, now 187 are listed).

One thing I did note whilst browsing through the two books is no road numbers of less than six digits are present.

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Re: Is it me, or is this a Jade Green Flexi-Van???
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2023, 08:24:05 AM »
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Let me settle the number debate..
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I think what happened is.. it was MVFX 9752 which is a steam line equipped Mark IV, when it got repainted it got a PC initial accidentally? instead of MVFX.

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Re: Is it me, or is this a Jade Green Flexi-Van???
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2023, 08:35:07 AM »
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Nice find, Ian. 

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Re: Is it me, or is this a Jade Green Flexi-Van???
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2023, 10:50:38 PM »
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I have to apologize: I was quite wrong - or right, but misdirected - in my previous post.

The car is marked correctly as PC 9752, one of a series of three found not in the freight ORER where I was looking but rather in the passenger register. Series is PC9700-9799, ex NYC of the same number series. PC was also in the process of renumbering the other NYC flexi-van flats found in series 9850-9899 and 9924-9926.

Apologies for the earlier misdirection; searching the passenger register hadn't occurred to me until I saw your enlarged image and did some further research.

It is interesting that there were apparently duplicate numbers in their system. Do you know what date the images were taken?

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Re: Is it me, or is this a Jade Green Flexi-Van???
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2023, 10:48:29 AM »
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Here is a good summary of NYC Flexi-vans including the acquisitions from WP, Southern, CERX, and USFX

http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/other_cars/nyc_cars/nyc_type/flat/flat_flexi.htm

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