MT truck/auto frame loads, which flatcar?

[milw156]

had reserved some of the auto/truck frames from MT when they were announced, have been notified that they are in. Which of the available 89' flatcars would be the most appropriate choice(s) to put them on?
https://www.micro-trains.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=63_64&product_id=4457

[JoeD]

we are releasing the FTTX flats that they are used on this month (two sets of two, four numbers).  they can be used on other flats as well.

Cheers

Joe

[GonzoCRFan]

@MTLJoe about these loads: all the marketing says it's a set of 5 stacks, but it doesn't specify if they are 1 or 2 stacks wide. Are they single-stacks wide so you need 2 sets of loads per car, or is 1 load sufficient for each car? Thanks!

[Kentuckian]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rKGvT-m9r-s/UEfUdtZRgaI/AAAAAAAAAJE/VoS5SvHtSyU/s1600/FTTX+%2358371+89'+Flat+Car+with+Auto+Frame+Load+CSX+Louisville+KY+Fall+1994.jpg

[John]

You can see them roll through LaGrange on the VRF cam most days ..

[JoeD]

@MTLJoe about these loads: all the marketing says it's a set of 5 stacks, but it doesn't specify if they are 1 or 2 stacks wide. Are they single-stacks wide so you need 2 sets of loads per car, or is 1 load sufficient for each car? Thanks!

The frames are double wide as per prototype.   5 car sets are used on the 89 flats and 4 of the truck frames for the same cars.   you get an extra load  

Joe

[johnb]

The frames are double wide as per prototype.   5 car sets are used on the 89 flats and 4 of the truck frames for the same cars.   you get an extra load  

Joe

how about some frames for the vintage modelers?

[JoeD]

how about some frames for the vintage modelers?

yes

[milw156]

we are releasing the FTTX flats that they are used on this month (two sets of two, four numbers).  they can be used on other flats as well.

Cheers

Joe

OK, so these are flush deck cars not the TOFC type?

[jcox3751]

Any photos of the MT product?

The drawing is OK but a photo would great.

Joe Cox
Austin, TX

[thbguy]

I got my preorder sets and these look really excellent.
Thanks, MTL for making these!

Three sets of truck frames would be at home on a 53’ 6 NYC flatcar, circa 1968 (which is pretty vintage). I’ve seen frames loaded on 60’ flatcars too.


NYCHS photo

Hmmm, I think I need one more set of car frames.

Obviously, an angled load for gondolas in the 1930s-1950s eras would be awesome too. I worked with Stonysmith on Shapeways to get his angled 3D printed load right, and it looks pretty good.




Kind regards,
Michael

[GonzoCRFan]

The frames are double wide as per prototype.   5 car sets are used on the 89 flats and 4 of the truck frames for the same cars.   you get an extra load  

Joe

Joe, are the truck frames too long to fit all 5 stacks on a single car? The plant I'm trying to represent was building small-medium pickups and SUVs and the images I have show they were getting 5 stacks per car. But if the truck frames would be too long then I guess I need to grab the car frames instead.

[thbguy]

Joe, are the truck frames too long to fit all 5 stacks on a single car? The plant I'm trying to represent was building small-medium pickups and SUVs and the images I have show they were getting 5 stacks per car. But if the truck frames would be too long then I guess I need to grab the car frames instead.

Many SUVs use car chassis rather than truck length chassis for the frames. The Rav4 is built on the same chassis as a Camry, IIRC. So small-med pickups and SUVs would be using the car frames which fit as you saw 5 stacks on a car.

Best regards,
Michael

[peteski]

Many SUVs use car chassis rather than truck length chassis for the frames. The Rav4 is built on the same chassis as a Camry, IIRC. So small-med pickups and SUVs would be using the car frames which fit as you saw 5 stacks on a car.

Best regards,
Michael

Aren't most sedans (and likely small SUVs) uni-body nowadays?  They don't have full frame - just a sub-frame which carries the drivetrain.

[thbguy]

Aren't most sedans (and likely small SUVs) uni-body nowadays?  They don't have full frame - just a sub-frame which carries the drivetrain.

Yes. Nowadays, it is often literally the drivetrain that overlaps. I don’t do current day, and unibody has really taken over now.