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Re: Weekend Update 8/15/21
« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2021, 10:59:44 PM »
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I believe that Skoda also built steam locomotives “back in the day”.
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Growing up in Poland in the '70s I am very familiar wit Skoda products.  Lots of Skoda cars, trucks, and buses on Polish roads. Skoda diesel locos pulling Polish trains. I believe they also made other items, such as heavy construction machinery.  Not sure if they ever made steam locos (Most steam locos in contemporary Poland at that time ware mostly ex-German, and Polish manufacture).
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Re: Weekend Update 8/15/21
« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2021, 11:16:19 PM »
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So, Nate, you aren’t a jerk for ordering parts as long as you are not burying them in the back yard with hopes of cornering the market. 
That being said, Kato has probably the best organized parts operatiion of its kind with Bachman being as good or better (selling complete decorated bodies). 
Charlie Vlk

I wasn't specifically mad at Nate, but I can see how my post seemed that way.  I'm just disappointed at Kato for not stocking the new low-profile wheelests Nate is seeking.  As a bit of a hoarder myself I hate to see anybody buying complete trucks, just to extract the wheels and discard the rest.  I'm sure there is a fairly limited supply of those trucks, and it saddens me to suspect that some day someone will be looking for a complete truck that could have been available if Nate didn't buy bunch of them, just for the wheelsets.  Nothing against you Nate.

Kato!  @nightmare0331  : We would love to see Kato offering the new (narrow tread. low flange) passenger wheelsets available as a separate item (similar to the old deep-flange ones, part #932040 that are currently available).  Maybe you could convince the Kato mothership in Japan to make them available.  Kato does sell a variety of wheelsets in Japan - why not one more item for USA?
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Re: Weekend Update 8/15/21
« Reply #32 on: August 16, 2021, 03:48:34 AM »
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The small Pennsy layout that I have set up in the basement is all code 55, and I don't want them bumping along the main line....

Quite an assortment of front couplers on your units. I take it the lead locos all run with the Tru-Scale couplers forward, and the trailing loco has the large MTL-type couplers for hauling the varnish. I put TruScales on all my lead locos fronts.

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Re: Weekend Update 8/15/21
« Reply #33 on: August 16, 2021, 07:28:07 AM »
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Quite an assortment of front couplers on your units. I take it the lead locos all run with the Tru-Scale couplers forward, and the trailing loco has the large MTL-type couplers for hauling the varnish. I put TruScales on all my lead locos fronts.

I used to run Z scale 905's on the front of all my lead units (passenger units that I knew I would not be coupling anything to the front of), but I'm slowly converting most of them to True-Scale couplers.  They look better and have the air hose on them (some of which I have to trim a little for clearance).

The trailing units usually have a MT N scale coupler or a Unimate (Fox Valley Models) dummy coupler to hook up to their assigned passenger consists.

I use Unimates (Fox Valley) almost exclusively between the motive power - nice close coupling on the Kato and Intermountain E and F units.

Glad you noticed.  :)

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Re: Weekend Update 8/15/21
« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2021, 08:39:46 AM »
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Re: Weekend Update 8/15/21
« Reply #35 on: August 16, 2021, 09:19:52 AM »
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I wasn't specifically mad at Nate, but I can see how my post seemed that way.  I'm just disappointed at Kato for not stocking the new low-profile wheelests Nate is seeking.  As a bit of a hoarder myself I hate to see anybody buying complete trucks, just to extract the wheels and discard the rest.  I'm sure there is a fairly limited supply of those trucks, and it saddens me to suspect that some day someone will be looking for a complete truck that could have been available if Nate didn't buy bunch of them, just for the wheelsets.  Nothing against you Nate.

Kato!  @nightmare0331  : We would love to see Kato offering the new (narrow tread. low flange) passenger wheelsets available as a separate item (similar to the old deep-flange ones, part #932040 that are currently available).  Maybe you could convince the Kato mothership in Japan to make them available.  Kato does sell a variety of wheelsets in Japan - why not one more item for USA?
The following is an academic question, since I haven't seen FVM wheels on anyone's shelf for a long time, but here goes....
All this conversation about wheels to fit Kato leads me to ask whether the Fox Valley .563 axles would fit?  (my recollection is that there were 36" wheels available IIRC), that were made to fit Rivarossi and some Con-cor production from "back in the day".  Checking with my handy caliper (which is really cheap and not the last word on measurement), I'm getting close measurements between the 3 wheelsets (Riv., CC, and Kato), but all a couple thousandths light of .563.
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Re: Weekend Update 8/15/21
« Reply #36 on: August 16, 2021, 09:26:12 AM »
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Re: Weekend Update 8/15/21
« Reply #37 on: August 16, 2021, 09:30:05 AM »
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The trouble with Kato passenger car replacement wheels  is looking for a non metal axels. Because the way the trucks are set up for lights ,metal axels create a short.

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Re: Weekend Update 8/15/21
« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2021, 09:44:47 AM »
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I used to run Z scale 905's on the front of all my lead units (passenger units that I knew I would not be coupling anything to the front of), but I'm slowly converting most of them to True-Scale couplers.  They look better and have the air hose on them (some of which I have to trim a little for clearance).

The trailing units usually have a MT N scale coupler or a Unimate (Fox Valley Models) dummy coupler to hook up to their assigned passenger consists.

I use Unimates (Fox Valley) almost exclusively between the motive power - nice close coupling on the Kato and Intermountain E and F units.

The MTL True-Scale couplers also work well between “permanently” MU’d power in closing the gaps.
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Re: Weekend Update 8/15/21
« Reply #39 on: August 16, 2021, 03:17:40 PM »
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The MTL True-Scale couplers also work well between “permanently” MU’d power in closing the gaps.

Agreed - I've used them in some applications as well (Life-Like FA's for example).

They look better than the Unimates, however, they (True-Scale couplers) won't couple to anything else.  So it's either convert everything if you swap up your multi-unit sets, or you're out of luck.

As is often said, there are numerous solutions to any given problem.  :)

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Re: Weekend Update 8/15/21
« Reply #40 on: August 16, 2021, 04:33:36 PM »
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The following is an academic question, since I haven't seen FVM wheels on anyone's shelf for a long time, but here goes....
All this conversation about wheels to fit Kato leads me to ask whether the Fox Valley .563 axles would fit?  (my recollection is that there were 36" wheels available IIRC), that were made to fit Rivarossi and some Con-cor production from "back in the day".  Checking with my handy caliper (which is really cheap and not the last word on measurement), I'm getting close measurements between the 3 wheelsets (Riv., CC, and Kato), but all a couple thousandths light of .563.

Each of the Kato wheels has a metal half-axle. Those are connected together into a wheelset via a plastic axle tube.  This results in each wheel/axle combination insulated frjm the other, so they can be used to pick up electricity via the metal axle bearing cups in the sideframes.

Most of the aftermarket wheelsets have 1-piece metal axle with only one wheel insulated. Can't use those in Kato trucks for picking up electricity (for car illumination).
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Re: Weekend Update 8/15/21
« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2021, 05:38:25 PM »
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Each of the Kato wheels has a metal half-axle. Those are connected together into a wheelset via a plastic axle tube.  This results in each wheel/axle combination insulated frjm the other, so they can be used to pick up electricity via the metal axle bearing cups in the sideframes.

Most of the aftermarket wheelsets have 1-piece metal axle with only one wheel insulated. Can't use those in Kato trucks for picking up electricity (for car illumination).
The trouble with Kato passenger car replacement wheels  is looking for a non metal axels. Because the way the trucks are set up for lights ,metal axels create a short.

Well, there you go.  I was looking right at a Kato axle along with some older Con-cor and Riv. axles, should have jumped out at me, but I was so concentrated on the axle length, it went right by.

If I had some of the FVM wheels/axles, I probably would have shorted something out testing....
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Re: Weekend Update 8/15/21
« Reply #42 on: August 17, 2021, 12:00:22 AM »
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Agreed - I've used them in some applications as well (Life-Like FA's for example).

The MU'd Life-Like FAs especially look incredibly good with MTL True-Scale couplers between the units.
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Re: Weekend Update 8/15/21
« Reply #43 on: August 17, 2021, 07:26:54 AM »
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The MU'd Life-Like FAs especially look incredibly good with MTL True-Scale couplers between the units.

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Re: Weekend Update 8/15/21
« Reply #44 on: August 17, 2021, 08:08:26 AM »
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I wasn't specifically mad at Nate, but I can see how my post seemed that way.  I'm just disappointed at Kato for not stocking the new low-profile wheelests Nate is seeking.  As a bit of a hoarder myself I hate to see anybody buying complete trucks, just to extract the wheels and discard the rest.  I'm sure there is a fairly limited supply of those trucks, and it saddens me to suspect that some day someone will be looking for a complete truck that could have been available if Nate didn't buy bunch of them, just for the wheelsets.  Nothing against you Nate.

Kato!  @nightmare0331  : We would love to see Kato offering the new (narrow tread. low flange) passenger wheelsets available as a separate item (similar to the old deep-flange ones, part #932040 that are currently available).  Maybe you could convince the Kato mothership in Japan to make them available.  Kato does sell a variety of wheelsets in Japan - why not one more item for USA?

@peteski  :

I parted ways with Kato a couple months ago for ScaleTrains, so I'm not much help on that front.

Kato USA certainly *could* get just the passenger wheelsets when they order the next production run of passenger cars and are placing the parts order since the parts department has been turned into a profit center and they finally realized that by actually stocking parts, they make money (and Sekisui can charge Kato USA more money).  Now whether they will take the time to do that on this part is another story...

Oddly enough, I think I have some of those passenger wheelsets in question around here somewhere....

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