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Blazeman

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Problems in Canada
« on: February 13, 2020, 08:37:00 AM »
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In my job, I have to arrange rail transportation for my employer.  We have one plant in Quebec.  Some things have been happening there that have really tied the railroads in knots, yet I've seen next to nothing in the media or on this site, despite numerous members living north of the 49th.

Most of us saw reporting of derailments and subsequent fires involving two crude trains, both in a section of Saskatchewan.  In reaction to that, the transport minister imposed handling requirements on movements of hazmat cars.  Any train with 20 or more hazmat cars is required to travel no faster than 25 MPH (20 MPH in urban areas).  Any train with even ONE car of TIH product (chlorine, EO, HF, etc) is also subject to those mandates.  With schedules and crewing plans based on moving cars at 50 MPH, easy to see what will happen.  CN has imposed a permit system for shipping TIH cars.

Making things worse, political actions by Native Peoples (I hope that isn't offensive to those citizens) in BC and ON have blocked CN lines.  The ON activity has closed the line from Montreal to Toronto. In BC, the Prince Rupert line is affected. The last report from CN is they have parked "hundreds" of trains and suspended service for traffic between stations in eastern Canada (PQ and the Maritimes) and the west, including their Detroit-Chicago traffic.

Courts have issued injunctions in both situations.  At least in ON, that has been ignored and the enforcement authorities have stated a reluctance to confront the demonstrators after an unpleasant experience recently elsewhere.

Consequently, the economy is slowing without replenishment of inventories rails handle.  Ships at ports are not able to move cargoes on and off. 

Again, nothing about this has been mentioned in US media, even the WSJ has been silent (through the other day).  With the car handling restrictions, digging out of this situation will take an extended time meaning the distress to industry will be prolonged.

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Re: Problems in Canada
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2020, 08:54:38 AM »
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I haven't heard about it either.. We self impose similar speed restrictions on hazardous trains to minimize exposure if something were to happen.

As far as protestors, Mexican railroads seem to know how to deal with that..

Although I do see occasional notices from KCS/KCSM about service delays due to protests.

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Re: Problems in Canada
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2020, 09:34:57 AM »
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I've seen a little about what is going on in Canada. What exactly are the Natives protesting?

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Re: Problems in Canada
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2020, 09:38:11 AM »
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Apparently there's a pipeline project involving tribal land I believe in BC.  The Ontario action is in sympathy.

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Re: Problems in Canada
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2020, 09:59:51 AM »
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Another blockade has formed west of Winnipeg.

Jet fuel and de-icer will be one of the first commodities to be in short supply.

Finally, some media attention:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-retailers-and-manufacturers-brace-for-shutdowns-as-pipeline-protests/

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Re: Problems in Canada
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2020, 10:15:19 AM »
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Apparently there's a pipeline project involving tribal land I believe in BC.  The Ontario action is in sympathy.

Well, the answer might be to listen to what they're saying.

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Re: Problems in Canada
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2020, 10:35:29 AM »
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As far as protestors, Mexican railroads seem to know how to deal with that..

~Ian

I like how they attached a cage around the windows in case the protesters throw things at the engineer/fireman.  Maybe I can build an operating T-Trak module like that.   :facepalm:

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Re: Problems in Canada
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2020, 10:35:55 AM »
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Well, the answer might be to listen to what they're saying.

That'll happen.
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Re: Problems in Canada
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2020, 12:36:23 PM »
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Does anybody here speak/read Spanish well enough to tell us what the Mexican protesters are protesting?

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Re: Problems in Canada
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2020, 12:37:04 PM »
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Apparently there's a pipeline project involving tribal land I believe in BC.  The Ontario action is in sympathy.

We oppose a pipeline so we are protesting the alternative to the pipeline.. Genius! 

.....Or do they want the pipeline?

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Re: Problems in Canada
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2020, 04:04:24 PM »
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Oh.. D'Gens form up country...

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Re: Problems in Canada
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2020, 04:19:10 PM »
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Effin D'Gens form up country...
 :D
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That's a Texas sized 10-4 good buddy.

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Re: Problems in Canada
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2020, 04:30:39 PM »
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Just lock this now.  Please.

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Re: Problems in Canada
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2020, 04:57:16 PM »
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... I cleaned it up....

That's a Texas sized 10-4 good buddy.

Around here we call that a 2-10-4 :)

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