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Re: CSX Hanover Subdivision 3.0 - A design discussion
« Reply #165 on: January 25, 2021, 09:22:26 PM »
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I might, but Rt 30 would probably be in the aisle.  Even though it's not rail served, I'd think the McDermott Concrete facility would make for better scenery than the DQ :D

Fun fact, the concrete facility was rail served up until Chessie days.  The siding is still there, between Camp siding and the concrete bins/walls they stored aggregate in.  CSX is currently scrapping Camp Siding.  They removed the turnouts years ago, and are now removing the rail this week.  Kinda strange seeing that scrap prices are junk

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Re: CSX Hanover Subdivision 3.0 - A design discussion
« Reply #166 on: January 25, 2021, 09:34:30 PM »
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Initial shipment of lumber picked up Sunday for interior basement walls.  Approx $450 in the photo  :scared: :o



And this morning my framer sent me a text informing me my estimate is going up by approx 20% from over the summer, due to material cost increases.  Wonder where the hell I'm pulling that out of ??

You should have seen the bill for this stack of lumber. The only engineered lumber the builder used was a big honking gluelam beam to support the clear span center of the double carport. I mean... damn.
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Re: CSX Hanover Subdivision 3.0 - A design discussion
« Reply #167 on: January 25, 2021, 09:37:44 PM »
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Well, I'll be seeing a much bigger bill once the framer gets here.  He sent me a text today to update me on his estimate.  I originally got one from him over the summer, but due to my mason flaking out on me, I lost my spot with the framer until now.  He said with material price increases, he said to expect a 20% increase to the estimate.   :scared: :o

Where the hell am I pulling 20% from ?  I don't think I can reach that far.....  :facepalm:

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Re: CSX Hanover Subdivision 3.0 - A design discussion
« Reply #168 on: January 25, 2021, 09:54:13 PM »
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For 8 bucks those studs should cut themselves  :trollface:

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Re: CSX Hanover Subdivision 3.0 - A design discussion
« Reply #169 on: January 25, 2021, 10:27:20 PM »
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More like frame themselves.   :trollface:

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Re: CSX Hanover Subdivision 3.0 - A design discussion
« Reply #170 on: January 26, 2021, 09:16:01 AM »
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And with above lumber, the first section of basement wall is up.



And I am my fathers son.  He has a knack for building things just a smidge too big/long/tall.  I put the frame together, threw it up to test, worked fine.  Well, I went and stuck all the studs in the middle and wallah !  It didn't fit anymore, even with a nudge or 6 from the sledgehammer.  Back down it came and jigsaw to the bottom to remove some from each stud.  Now fits like a glove.  He taught me well :D

A $29 Harbor Freight circular saw might serve you well.
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Re: CSX Hanover Subdivision 3.0 - A design discussion
« Reply #171 on: January 26, 2021, 09:30:11 AM »
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Or cutting them right the first time 🤷‍♂️🤣

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Re: CSX Hanover Subdivision 3.0 - A design discussion
« Reply #172 on: January 26, 2021, 10:06:45 AM »
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Are those 2x4s?  If you're just studding out over the foam board, you can use 2x3...  They're about half the price.  You have to sift through the pile to get decent ones, but they'll not only cost a lot less, they'll open the room up by a few precious inches.  For the bottom plate, just get treated 2x6 and rip it in half.

Also, you can run those 24" o.c. because there's nothing structural going on there.  Every penny you save is a penny you can spend on turnouts and rolling stock.
 
This extra space can be allocated to the aisle spaces, since with COVID, we're all getting really fat.  When we can finally have that first ops session, there will be a lot of jostling for space!

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Re: CSX Hanover Subdivision 3.0 - A design discussion
« Reply #173 on: January 26, 2021, 10:26:33 AM »
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I'll move to 24s but I'll just stick with the 2x4 since already acquired.   It took awhile to find them, as they weren't in correct bay at store.  Everyone will just have to diet before attending an ops session.  You'll look better, be healthier ( less chance of getting sick witb covid/flu/whatever else gets released or mutated) and fit your clothes more comfortably 😁.  Look at all the good im doing 🤣

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Re: CSX Hanover Subdivision 3.0 - A design discussion
« Reply #174 on: January 26, 2021, 11:24:46 AM »
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I think it would be a good idea, if not code even, if the plate were pressure treated.
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Re: CSX Hanover Subdivision 3.0 - A design discussion
« Reply #175 on: January 26, 2021, 11:28:24 AM »
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Plate is treated 😁

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Re: CSX Hanover Subdivision 3.0 - A design discussion
« Reply #176 on: January 26, 2021, 11:41:43 AM »
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Plate is treated 😁


Ah, very well then.  The pressure treated SYP products just aren't what I'm accustomed to seeing.   ;)
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Re: CSX Hanover Subdivision 3.0 - A design discussion
« Reply #177 on: January 26, 2021, 12:32:41 PM »
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You know a layout build is about to get good when the owner is building out a new room for it. At what point do we get to see some sketched out dimensions/track plan feelers? Gets the blood going!!  :D 
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Re: CSX Hanover Subdivision 3.0 - A design discussion
« Reply #178 on: January 26, 2021, 01:18:29 PM »
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You know a layout build is about to get good when the owner is building out a new room for it. At what point do we get to see some sketched out dimensions/track plan feelers? Gets the blood going!!  :D

Damn covid gets in the way.  Planning commission has yet to set an initial meeting date/time. Layout will be based on the CSX  Hanover sub  from Hagerstown to Baltimore.   Proto photos can be found here, using links from Hanover Sub, East Sub, York branch/sub on the left of screen

https://wmwestsub.us/main.htm

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Re: CSX Hanover Subdivision 3.0 - A design discussion
« Reply #179 on: January 26, 2021, 05:12:27 PM »
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Holy crap, are those 2x4s gold plated?

Up here 10 ft goes for just over $7 (9.35 in our CAD). Everyone says that lumber has gone up in price, but these costs are ridiculous, especially when we grow and produce it up here.

I guess Canadian lumber industry prefers to export to get USD for it since they consider us, local buyers, unworthy. Instead, big box stores import Grade F lumber from China and South America to maximize profits and they still sell it at rip-off prices. Sigh.