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Re: Horseshoe Curve Derailment
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2019, 08:38:07 PM »
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Yeah, they know (or should know) it’s wrong, but they want the train out of town. It’s a struggle. The list of “exempt” trains by division is long. Being exempt just means the train can run all f*ed up, but at 45mph.

As for the yard crews building the train, they’re just following a switch list. No deep thought required. It’s absolutely up to the outbound crew to know their sh-t, review the paperwork, job brief, check it three times etc. Everyone (road crews) know they’re the only ones who’ll hang when sh-t goes sideways. Goes with the territory.
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Re: Horseshoe Curve Derailment
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2019, 08:53:24 PM »
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Here’s what we’re up against:

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Re: Horseshoe Curve Derailment
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2019, 08:55:12 PM »
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It’s almost funny
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Re: Horseshoe Curve Derailment
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2019, 09:52:43 PM »
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Quote from: pedro on July 08, 2019, 08:53:24 PM
Here’s what we’re up against:



Thanks. I think. Now I have a headache.  :-X
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Re: Horseshoe Curve Derailment
« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2019, 10:32:33 PM »
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Quote from: pedro on July 08, 2019, 08:53:24 PM
Here’s what we’re up against:



Fascinating!  As a Tehachapi modeler, I really wanna see page 2.   :D
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Re: Horseshoe Curve Derailment
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2019, 01:18:35 AM »
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UP's is just as complicated, and they keep changing it. I'll have to download the BNSF SSI next time I'm at work.
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Re: Horseshoe Curve Derailment
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2019, 02:14:01 AM »
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I'm with Ben - I'd also like to see Page 2.

I notice that Marias Pass apparently isn't considered a "problem", unlike Stevens and Stampede Passes.
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Re: Horseshoe Curve Derailment
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2019, 09:07:23 AM »
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Page two:

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Re: Horseshoe Curve Derailment
« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2019, 10:17:08 AM »
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Re: Horseshoe Curve Derailment
« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2019, 06:44:20 PM »
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Quote from: pedro on July 09, 2019, 09:07:23 AM
Page two:



Ah so page 2 was just a repeat of part of page 1 at lower tonnage.  Okay.  Still interesting.

Does that (pg 1) rule about spine cars impinge on the  length of pig trains?   Does an intermodal typically weigh as much as 5500 tons?
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Re: Horseshoe Curve Derailment
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2019, 06:55:02 PM »
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I find it fascinating that Raton is included on these charts. When was the last time a mainline freight was operated over Raton? I guess they have to include it for the non-zero chance traffic could be rerouted, but I would be truly surprised if there were more than a dozen BNSF guys qualified for the line in the first place.

Corporate railroading, gotta love it.  :facepalm:
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Re: Horseshoe Curve Derailment
« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2019, 06:50:08 PM »
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Another derailment at Horseshoe curve this afternoon.
Three empty centerbeam flats on the head end of a train come off the rails.  :facepalm:
Go to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LedfGZCz7t0 , rewind to 16:08 EDT and wait about a minute.
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Re: Horseshoe Curve Derailment
« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2019, 07:11:58 PM »
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You think they would learn. Sure it's a mostly empty train but some cars shouldn't be at the head end when empty.
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Re: Horseshoe Curve Derailment
« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2019, 08:50:24 PM »
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How much does an empty centerbeam weigh?

Edit: less than 35 tons, apparently.  So does NS not have similar rules to BNSF? 
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Re: Horseshoe Curve Derailment
« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2019, 08:54:44 PM »
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Quote from: jagged ben on July 26, 2019, 08:50:24 PM
How much does an empty centerbeam weigh?

African or European?

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