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Re: Challenge #3 - Vintage Chemical
« Reply #90 on: April 16, 2020, 01:10:05 PM »
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I like the new boiler house.  If you need a smoke stack, I have a couple rolling around, including the gigantic one from old Heljan kit, although for the size of the building, a couple of tall steel stacks would probably look good.

Then only issue I see with @VonRyan 's kitbash is the second floor windows don't line up on the side.  If it's not too late, raise that wall section up and build a foundation at the bottom so the windows are at the same level.
It might be "close enough" for most, but being a building designer, I can't unsee that...

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The issue is that the various pieces, being from so many different kits, it’s hard to match everything on the actual structure without sacrificing the overall proportions. Plus, on that extension, I still need to cut that bottom-right window out to add the door. So they just have to be where they are. Besides, it is actually too late to go back. Everything is thoroughly MEK’ed together and trying to take it apart now would just damage the pieces.

This DPM kitbashing is definitely not an exact science.
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Re: Challenge #3 - Vintage Chemical
« Reply #91 on: April 16, 2020, 01:48:58 PM »
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Resized the image to 75% and it's good to go. Now to find enough other suitable ones...


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Re: Challenge #3 - Vintage Chemical
« Reply #92 on: April 16, 2020, 03:28:16 PM »
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I love how that's turning out.

@VonRyan no worries, it is what it is.  But keep in mind what an old carpenter once told me... If'n someone put it together, someone else can take it apart.  If you score the joint a couple of times it should snap apart right where you want it.

Adding a door is easy.  Cut the door opening down from the window, and allow for a step, maybe two, up from the sidewalk then used the upper part of the window opening for a transom above the door. 

I did that on my townhouse block...



For a foundation, just cut another section of DPM brick wall and add it to the bottom, us a bit of strip styrene to "trim" the joint, and paint it to look like a stone ledge between the foundation and upper wall.

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Re: Challenge #3 - Vintage Chemical
« Reply #93 on: April 16, 2020, 04:53:10 PM »
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I love how that's turning out.

@VonRyan no worries, it is what it is.  But keep in mind what an old carpenter once told me... If'n someone put it together, someone else can take it apart.  If you score the joint a couple of times it should snap apart right where you want it.

Adding a door is easy.  Cut the door opening down from the window, and allow for a step, maybe two, up from the sidewalk then used the upper part of the window opening for a transom above the door. 

I did that on my townhouse block...



For a foundation, just cut another section of DPM brick wall and add it to the bottom, us a bit of strip styrene to "trim" the joint, and paint it to look like a stone ledge between the foundation and upper wall.

Lee

The building is going on a slab, so no brick.
The door is low, so raising is counterintuitive.
The building parts are where they have to be to be proportional, and it’s definitely not coming apart. I had to remove one wall earlier on, and thankfully it was to replace it anyhow as the wall I removed ended up with a damaged edge. At this point all these joints have like 4 applications of MEK.
There’s only about one step up to the door on the residence, so I have to keep the residence low anyhow.

Not to mention, looking at a more dead-on shot of the side, the windows on the residence are just ever so slightly lower than the windows on the restaurant.

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Re: Challenge #3 - Vintage Chemical
« Reply #94 on: April 16, 2020, 10:33:16 PM »
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The second floor windows line up.
There's an awning to mask the sins of the door, which is obviously lower than the bay window
There's trash cans to mask the sins of the foundation.
Excuses are for the weak. :trollface:

Now YOU can't unsee it either. :ashat:

Better modeling through peer pressure.  It's the way of the a$$hat.

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Re: Challenge #3 - Vintage Chemical
« Reply #95 on: April 16, 2020, 10:35:29 PM »
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Resized the image to 75% and it's good to go. Now to find enough other suitable ones...



I liked it better in the larger format.  The floor aligned better with the foreground building.  Probably not as mission critical as the Szechuan Inn, but keeping the background in proportion with the foreground helps trick the eye...

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Re: Challenge #3 - Vintage Chemical
« Reply #96 on: April 17, 2020, 09:41:00 AM »
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Trying out a new backdrop photo candidate. I'm thinking I'm going to have to assemble the backdrop for this from a number of sources. Obviously this is too big.


But I like the general direction of it. Now just to find more suitable images.


Why don’t you just cut the ground off? That would make it lower, somehow the scaled down version looks weird to me.

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Re: Challenge #3 - Vintage Chemical
« Reply #97 on: April 17, 2020, 11:17:11 AM »
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Why don’t you just cut the ground off? That would make it lower, somehow the scaled down version looks weird to me.

Interesting thought. Hmm.

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Re: Challenge #3 - Vintage Chemical
« Reply #98 on: April 17, 2020, 11:55:40 AM »
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Love that photo background, would be very difficult to get those colors and weathering on a "flat" kit wall.

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Re: Challenge #3 - Vintage Chemical
« Reply #99 on: April 17, 2020, 12:16:57 PM »
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Love that photo background, would be very difficult to get those colors and weathering on a "flat" kit wall.

But that's kind of a problem. When the flats are photo-realistic, they contrast with the foreground models, which could never compete. I've always thought modeled building flats maintain more consistency than photo building flats. But that's just me...

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Re: Challenge #3 - Vintage Chemical
« Reply #100 on: April 17, 2020, 12:56:15 PM »
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But that's kind of a problem. When the flats are photo-realistic, they contrast with the foreground models, which could never compete. I've always thought modeled building flats maintain more consistency than photo building flats. But that's just me...

It's true, especially with buildings. It just means I need to up the quality of the buildings though :)

In reality, I don't have much of a choice. A distant hillside or a row of trees would look very odd in this case.

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Re: Challenge #3 - Vintage Chemical
« Reply #101 on: April 17, 2020, 02:46:29 PM »
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In reality, I don't have much of a choice. A distant hillside or a row of trees would look very odd in this case.

If you need raw materials to make building flats, I know a guy...

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Re: Challenge #3 - Vintage Chemical
« Reply #102 on: April 17, 2020, 02:51:27 PM »
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If you need raw materials to make building flats, I know a guy...

Haha, it's funny, I actually just passed some of the stash onto @CodyO who should post what hotness he's been up to with them!

I've actually already got some flats in place, but what I need is stuff for behind them (like this building).

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Re: Challenge #3 - Vintage Chemical
« Reply #103 on: April 17, 2020, 04:38:37 PM »
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Maybe try printing them with about a 15% increase in brightness to fade it a wee bit.   That would give it a little bit of distance behind the brighter 3-D flats.

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Re: Challenge #3 - Vintage Chemical
« Reply #104 on: April 18, 2020, 06:00:58 PM »
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Guys. It's gonna be sitting next to Unitrack.

Hey, just what are you saying about UniTrack?  :D

I still can't see the misalignment Lee is talking about, but then I have such bad Corona Virus eye strain from too much time looking at small items and video screens I may need to take up G scale modeling soon.
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