NMRA Convention News / Announcments?

[bbussey]

That's a Pennsy G38 ore car from Bachmann, and item #18655, the black PRR scheme, appears to be accurate.  Hopefully for the Pennsy modelers, it will be priced to encourage multiple acquisitions.

[wazzou]

Hopefully for the Pennsy modelers, it will be priced to encourage multiple acquisitions.

You mean like 3 for $100-?  Glad I'm not in need of that car.

[wcfn100]

Has anyone politely asked Kato about possible future roadnames on the FP7?

Armour yellow will be next then it's just whether they do a black and orange freight scheme.

Jason

[C855B]

That's a Pennsy G38 ore car from Bachmann, and item #18655, the black PRR scheme, appears to be accurate.  Hopefully for the Pennsy modelers, it will be priced to encourage multiple acquisitions.

Thought I recognized it. Could also be a stand-in for the cars SP used on the Eagle Mountain Kaiser Steel trains. UP also had a similar style, but I don't know in what service, as the cars for the Atlantic City (WY) - SLC trains were closer to the DM&IR style produced by Atlas and Roco.

I commented previously about Bachmann's pricing for these. 

[mplsjct]

You mean like 3 for $100-?  Glad I'm not in need of that car.

Funny, I was thinking the same thing - neat car, oh, it's by Bachmann, ohh, look at that price!

Glad I don't need it too.

[mplsjct]

You left out the FM Erie's, but I agree, I like their structures.

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Bachmann is Bachmann is Bachmann etc 

The one that irks me is the queen of sitting on tooling (WKW) - they have relocated* the following tooling to a sealed time capsule in old salt mine in Kansas:

EMD BL2
EMD GP18
EMD E7 A&B
EMD E6
EMD SW9/1200
EMD SW8/900/600
Alco FA1 A&B
Alco FA2 A&B
Alco PA1 A&B
Alco RS2
Alco C424 Ph 2
FM C-Liner A&B
Lima 2-8-4 (NKP version)
USRA 0-8-0
USRA  2-8-8-2 (N&W Y3)
Passenger Cars  (All)

* pure conjecture 

I am "sure" that they have plans to re-run these at some point. I am skeptical though since every time I ask about a specific one the response is "we have no plans at this time".

On the positive side, I really like the N scale structures. <--- (I am serious about this)

Mark

[Ed Kapuscinski]

That's a Pennsy G38 ore car from Bachmann, and item #18655, the black PRR scheme, appears to be accurate.  Hopefully for the Pennsy modelers, it will be priced to encourage multiple acquisitions.

Oh *****.

But at that price, they better be ESMC quality, because that's the air they're in.

[ryan_wilkerson]

Hasn't Bachmann just had really high MSRPs in recent years and the street price is a higher % off than other manufacturers? Or maybe they have sales where the price is much lower?

[Cajonpassfan]

And the Bach Man brings us an SD9 ... and an N scale version of their ore car + a Re-run of the bobber.

Well, MSRP aside, at least the ore car is interesting and all new tooling of a car we never had before. Anyone here know what its prototype is? Looks like a shorter version of a 30', 100-ton Gunderson gon?
Otto K.

[Mark5]

Hasn't Bachmann just had really high MSRPs in recent years and the street price is a higher % off than other manufacturers? Or maybe they have sales where the price is much lower?

All of their list prices are in the stratosphere. Street prices have been rising to a "what the?" level.

[C855B]

IMO it's a gambit to acclimate the market to (much) higher pricing. It managed to bump street prices for about a year and then the real values kicked back in. So, basically, nobody believes it. My last acquisition of a new S-4 was something like $50 - 1/3 the MSRP. Maybe the seller was disposing of it at cost, but still you get the idea that the MSRP includes a healthy retailer markup rarely taken in full.

[Ed Kapuscinski]

Well, MSRP aside, at least the ore car is interesting and all new tooling of a car we never had before. Anyone here know what its prototype is? Looks like a shorter version of a 30', 100-ton Gunderson gon?
Otto K.

It's a Pennsy G38. They're one of the two big classes PRR Ore Car, hence one of the big classes of Conrail ore car.
http://conrailphotos.thecrhs.org/ConrailEquipment/FreightCars/OreJennies

[jdcolombo]

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Bachmann is Bachmann is Bachmann etc 

The one that irks me is the queen of sitting on tooling (WKW) - they have relocated* the following tooling to a sealed time capsule in old salt mine in Kansas:

EMD BL2
EMD GP18
EMD E7 A&B
EMD E6
EMD SW9/1200
EMD SW8/900/600
Alco FA1 A&B
Alco FA2 A&B
Alco PA1 A&B
Alco RS2
Alco C424 Ph 2
FM C-Liner A&B
Lima 2-8-4 (NKP version)
USRA 0-8-0
USRA  2-8-8-2 (N&W Y3)
Passenger Cars  (All)

* pure conjecture 

I am "sure" that they have plans to re-run these at some point. I am skeptical though since every time I ask about a specific one the response is "we have no plans at this time".

On the positive side, I really like the N scale structures. <--- (I am serious about this)

Mark

While I'm no Walthers fan, one problem with many of these locos is that they are not DCC ready (not true of the 0-8-0, which had a scheduled third run at one time before it was cancelled).  The Berkshire is one of the smoothest-running steam locos ever - it rivals the Kato FEF in that regard, but it is a bear to convert to DCC and it can't pull anything out of the box.  Watching a Berk pull six cars is . . . disheartening.  While I have a dozen of these (and have done work to make them operate acceptably), I wouldn't buy a re-run unless they at least included a traction-tired driver set; most people wouldn't touch them given their DCC-unfriendliness.   

So I sort of understand why we aren't seeing these models again - the mechanisms have seen better days, and if they re-ran them, most of us would complain about how outdated they are!

John C.

[Mark5]

So I sort of understand why we aren't seeing these models again - the mechanisms have seen better days, and if they re-ran them, most of us would complain about how outdated they are!

John C.

While I kind of understand, the simple thing to do is fix them. There is nothing wrong with the split frame mechanisms - just need to accommodate DCC (where applicable - some of them already do).

But most likely we won't see these again until another manufacturer steps up.

Mark

[Dave V]

It's a Pennsy G38. They're one of the two big classes PRR Ore Car, hence one of the big classes of Conrail ore car.
http://conrailphotos.thecrhs.org/ConrailEquipment/FreightCars/OreJennies

But in true Bachmann fashion, I'm guessing it'll come with only one road number...even though these ran in unit trains.