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kmrollo

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« on: April 19, 2017, 08:56:07 AM »
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Does anyone know if i can use sculptamold for a base in a river and when dry pour envirotex epoxy on top?

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Re: water
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2017, 11:25:12 PM »
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Does anyone know if i can use sculptamold for a base in a river and when dry pour envirotex epoxy on top?

I've poured Envirotex on a lot of surfaces and never had a problem with it.  Scuptamold is just paper mache, so as long as it's fully dried, no problemo...

However, you should probably either paint your riverbed using latex colors which will seal any micro-leaks you may have (Envirotex loves to dribble out of the smallest holes it can find), or texture it with dirt, stones and other river-bed stuff before pouring the resin.

Make sure you follow the recommended thickness that Envirotex tells you to pour, as making your pour thicker may greatly increase curing time.

You can also tint Envirotex resin with enamel paints if you want your water to not be so crystal clear, or give the bottom layer a greenish tint, the next layer less green, and the top no tint.  This will add a lot of depth.   You can also dribble enamel paint into your river/stream to infer industrial waste, mixing it around with sticks or straws to thin it out.

Be prepared to blow on your Envirotex using a straw to get rid of bubbles.  The CO2 in your breath takes the bubbles away when the resin is still "wet".  You can also use a propane torch for this, but be careful, especially with parts of your scenery that can be damaged by excessive heat that adjoin the river.

Envirotex cures to a near-perfect glassy surface, but it creeps up on to rocks, logs, river banks and also makes any dirt on the river bank look darker.  I don't finish my river banks until the resin is cured, then I paint the river bank with latex paints...then apply a texturing gel to make waves, rapids and give the "water" surface a more realistic look than mirror flat.  After the texturing gel is dry and clear, I'll add river bank materials (sand, dirt, rocks, logs) so most of the resin "creep" is hidden.  Any rocks that are sticking out of the stream that have that resin creep glossy look, I paint with appropriate flat colors, getting rid of the glossy resin creep.

Photo (1) - this is a river I made for a customer on his Ntrak 2000 modules a decade ago or so using the above described Envirotex techniques.  Rock carvings were done by my late buddy Kelly Newton:


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martin t

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Re: water
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2017, 05:52:25 AM »
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Hi!
I use toilet paper. It´s level unsensitive, is workable during a long time before it cures, is super-cheap and the result works for me.
Try it! I bet you alreay have the required materials avaiable!  :D


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Re: water
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2017, 05:55:34 AM »
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Toilet paper combined with some waterfalls:



Other veiw over the harbour:

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Re: water
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2017, 10:16:05 AM »
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Hi!
I use toilet paper. It´s level unsensitive, is workable during a long time before it cures, is super-cheap and the result works for me.
Try it! I bet you alreay have the required materials avaiable!  :D


Nice .. I might have added some white behind the boat .. especially along the wake .. and maybe some small white touch along the ridges of the waves . the ones near the pier especially ..

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Re: water
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2017, 08:46:18 PM »
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Re: water
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2017, 08:19:12 AM »
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Not to dig up something from the past, but part of the successful illusion of water is to capture the reflections:



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Re: water
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2017, 03:10:33 PM »
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this thread was started a little over a month ago...
I used Scuptamold to make the creek bed...I sealed everything with WS Scenic Cement (per WS recommendations) and had no issue with their new 'Deep Pour Water' two-part product..
best of all, there were no bubbles, nor any need to attempt to remove them...

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Re: water
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2017, 08:27:52 AM »
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Patching plaster bottom, painted with artists acrylics for depth.

Woodland Scenics Deep Pour water, 1/4" deep