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Re: Preview of upcoming MTL True-Scale Coupler system
« Reply #300 on: October 04, 2016, 12:15:36 AM »
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Solution for the Under slung coupler..

Using the Bowser PRR Caboose with MT 1015 as an Example..
Washer on Right - No Washer on left.
-- Remove the Top Plate and Trim the box to sit flush on the floor. 

(Either on purpose or on accident - the Box Design makes this really Easy!.. compared to the standard 1015 box.)


.. I'm guessing you'd need a flat surface to mount to .. to keep the coupler and box level.  (i.e. Might not work on a Kato loco... but you might be able to get away with a .005 shim for a flat surface.

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Re: Preview of upcoming MTL True-Scale Coupler system
« Reply #301 on: October 04, 2016, 10:55:55 AM »
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I know the first batch went out with standing orders.


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I would take Joe at his word that they will go out with the auto shipments.. Some dealers get auto ships in the first week or two.. smaller LHS's get them 3-4 weeks out. 

They will be here when they get here..  :D

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Re: Preview of upcoming MTL True-Scale Coupler system
« Reply #302 on: October 04, 2016, 12:51:28 PM »
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FWIW, I put an order into BLW for some other stuff , and added 2 packs of TC couplers and he's showing them to be shipped, and didn't mention anything about delay.

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Re: Preview of upcoming MTL True-Scale Coupler system
« Reply #303 on: October 04, 2016, 01:00:56 PM »
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Looking forward to getting some of these! First application will be between an A-B-A set of Intermountain F units, then will see how they could be used on passenger cars. 8)

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Re: Preview of upcoming MTL True-Scale Coupler system
« Reply #304 on: October 04, 2016, 02:06:43 PM »
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Wait. We had to order these? I thought they just fell from the sky.  :|

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Re: Preview of upcoming MTL True-Scale Coupler system
« Reply #305 on: October 04, 2016, 04:50:25 PM »
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 :D

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Solution for the Under slung coupler..

Using the Bowser PRR Caboose with MT 1015 as an Example..
Washer on Right - No Washer on left.
-- Remove the Top Plate and Trim the box to sit flush on the floor. 

(Either on purpose or on accident - the Box Design makes this really Easy!.. compared to the standard 1015 box.)


.. I'm guessing you'd need a flat surface to mount to .. to keep the coupler and box level.  (i.e. Might not work on a Kato loco... but you might be able to get away with a .005 shim for a flat surface.

~Ian
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Re: Preview of upcoming MTL True-Scale Coupler system
« Reply #306 on: October 04, 2016, 05:34:51 PM »
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Wait. We had to order these? I thought they just fell from the sky.  :|

Nah... that was the drones that MTL was trying to use to deliver these fine couplers.

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Re: Preview of upcoming MTL True-Scale Coupler system
« Reply #307 on: October 05, 2016, 02:43:56 PM »
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:D

Joe

Joe, I just rewarched your video, and noticed the caboose coupler is lower than the others..

So my Bowser underslung idea should work on the MT caboose under frame to bring the knuckle up to the correct height..

One thing I've been curious about is if the mounting hole and coupler post line up with the mounting hole and alignment hole on the old underframes.. which would allow you to screw into the rear hole and the coupler post would set into the front hole.

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Re: Preview of upcoming MTL True-Scale Coupler system
« Reply #308 on: October 05, 2016, 03:09:09 PM »
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Right.  We are also looking at an underslung option, but clipping off the bosses will get it a lot closer.   Not sure about that final option, but I can look into it.

Joe


Joe, I just rewarched your video, and noticed the caboose coupler is lower than the others..

So my Bowser underslung idea should work on the MT caboose under frame to bring the knuckle up to the correct height..

One thing I've been curious about is if the mounting hole and coupler post line up with the mounting hole and alignment hole on the old underframes.. which would allow you to screw into the rear hole and the coupler post would set into the front hole.

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Re: Preview of upcoming MTL True-Scale Coupler system
« Reply #309 on: October 06, 2016, 04:18:34 PM »
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The difference in size between the True-scale and the standard coupler is truly remarkable.

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Visually, I am sold on these.  The rest of the fleet will definitely be converted.  Functionally, I am patiently waiting for others with a higher level of skill and experience to provide their input.

Shipsure for President.

p.s.  Thanks to MTL for providing extra air hoses.  Those little suckers are hard to find, once they hit the floor.
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Re: Preview of upcoming MTL True-Scale Coupler system
« Reply #310 on: October 06, 2016, 04:28:06 PM »
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Wow.

Seeing them both on the same car . . . that really is stark.

Sigh . . . now I'm going to have to convert my fleet . . .

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Re: Preview of upcoming MTL True-Scale Coupler system
« Reply #311 on: October 06, 2016, 04:32:25 PM »
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Jim.. Did you trim the box and omit the top plate to lower the car, or are you using the complete box..?

We know they are on the streets so that's cool!

Today I'm working on a conversion for the Atlas 90 Ton Hopper.  Thinking about starting a conversion Thread Similar to the Notes on Body Mounting..
(Or should I continue that thread with True Scale instillations?)

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Re: Preview of upcoming MTL True-Scale Coupler system
« Reply #312 on: October 06, 2016, 05:21:45 PM »
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Jim.. Did you trim the box and omit the top plate to lower the car, or are you using the complete box..?

I lowered the car by removing the washers that were between the trucks and the bolsters, omitted the coupler top plates, and sanded the nubs off the top of the coupler box.  The couplers should be close to the correct height above the rails, after all that.
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Re: Preview of upcoming MTL True-Scale Coupler system
« Reply #313 on: October 06, 2016, 08:07:42 PM »
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Is there a height gauge for these? Or at least a recommendation of the height they should be set at?

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Re: Preview of upcoming MTL True-Scale Coupler system
« Reply #314 on: October 06, 2016, 09:14:10 PM »
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The difference in size between the True-scale and the standard coupler is truly remarkable.

Quite striking indeed.  I'm really looking forward to trying these out.  For me, the jury is out until I can compare them head to head with the LEZ couplers and the etched pockets, which I'm still very happy with.  The LEZ coupler has the distinct advantage of being compatible with other N couplers, while being close to scale size.  The MTL True-Scale has the advantage of being from MTL.

Today I'm working on a conversion for the Atlas 90 Ton Hopper.  Thinking about starting a conversion Thread Similar to the Notes on Body Mounting..
(Or should I continue that thread with True Scale instillations?)

~Ian

Feel free to append to that thread.  After all, it is still a work in progress.  :)