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Re: Preview of upcoming MTL True-Scale Coupler system
« Reply #270 on: September 23, 2016, 02:07:00 PM »
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Thanks gentleman...  :)
When I get my stuff unpacked I'll have to take some measurements, but it sounds like we're not too far off as it is.
will definitely have to modify or build a new height gauge.
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Re: Preview of upcoming MTL True-Scale Coupler system
« Reply #271 on: September 23, 2016, 03:56:31 PM »
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Interchangeable from the standpoint of being to swap-in one product for the other without modifying the host model?  Yes.

Interchangeable from the standpoint of mating with one another?  No.  Which means it doesn't matter if there is a difference between the horizontal planes of the magnetic coupler and the True-Scale coupler.

"Interchangeable" was probably not the best word to use...

I was referring to the extent the extent the coupler height would remain constant with either application (vs the FVM couplers/coupler boxes that aren't as much of a "clone" of the 1015 as I had suspected)

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Re: Preview of upcoming MTL True-Scale Coupler system
« Reply #272 on: September 24, 2016, 02:28:10 AM »
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Coupler heights, AAR Interchange Rules, 1977:

Empty cars: Minimum 32.5 inches, Maximum 34.5 inches
Loaded cars:  Minimum 31.5 inches, Maximum 33.5 inches

No mention of differences for freight and passenger cars, or locos.  The average is 33 inches, or 0.206 inch in N scale.  0.216 would be the 34.5 inch maximum for empty cars, so in N scale that would be the absolute maximum, while one could prototypically go as low as 0.196 inch.

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Re: Preview of upcoming MTL True-Scale Coupler system
« Reply #273 on: September 24, 2016, 09:43:01 AM »
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I always thought MT couplers were too high, but I guess at less than 1/64" from proto average we're within feasible tolerances anyway.

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Re: Preview of upcoming MTL True-Scale Coupler system
« Reply #274 on: September 25, 2016, 02:00:50 AM »
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The coupler itself is too tall, which adds to the appearance of riding too high.  Lamentable, but, given the track standards 45 years ago, quite understandable.  A scale height coupler would probably have uncoupled regularly on some of the joints, and especially with wheel drop at switch frogs.  When the then-Kadee couplers were designed, N scale was little more than toy trains, and some of the standards show it.  Unfortunately, it's hard to change standards, as the prototype has found out over the years, because there's so much money and labor invested in the old way, and the old way still works.

A standard gauge knuckle coupler and air hose from 1917 will work fine in today's trains, although the coupler won't be AAR-approved for interchange.  That's the problem with trying to convince railroads to try advanced freight car braking systems, or the European railroads adopting automatic couplers.  They either have to work with the current standard, or everything has to be changed at once.   
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Re: Preview of upcoming MTL True-Scale Coupler system
« Reply #275 on: September 25, 2016, 03:34:41 PM »
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5 more days!!!!...... (I hope)

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Re: Preview of upcoming MTL True-Scale Coupler system
« Reply #276 on: September 25, 2016, 04:27:40 PM »
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... These are scheduled to be available in package form this October. ...

5 more days!!!!...... (I hope)

Now now now. "October" goes up to and including the day before November 1st.  :trollface:  :facepalm:
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Re: Preview of upcoming MTL True-Scale Coupler system
« Reply #277 on: September 25, 2016, 04:39:56 PM »
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Re: Preview of upcoming MTL True-Scale Coupler system
« Reply #278 on: September 26, 2016, 12:23:16 PM »
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Now now now. "October" goes up to and including the day before November 1st.  :trollface:  :facepalm:

Hey.. thats better than asking What Year?  As we do with other mfgs.

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Re: Preview of upcoming MTL True-Scale Coupler system
« Reply #279 on: September 27, 2016, 01:32:23 PM »
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average distance between cars using the standard /short True Scale coupler is .218...depending on what bump or detail you measure from.

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Re: Preview of upcoming MTL True-Scale Coupler system
« Reply #280 on: September 27, 2016, 05:48:40 PM »
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Now now now. "October" goes up to and including the day before November 1st.  :trollface:  :facepalm:

Killjoy.   :trollface:

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Re: Preview of upcoming MTL True-Scale Coupler system
« Reply #281 on: September 28, 2016, 09:04:18 PM »
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2 MORE DAYS
-- Assuming they are announced on the 1st of the month flyer...  :RUEffinKiddingMe:




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Re: Preview of upcoming MTL True-Scale Coupler system
« Reply #282 on: September 29, 2016, 12:25:07 AM »
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#001 02 300......True-Scale Coupler w/short shank (2 pr)...............$3.45
#001 02 301......True-Scale Coupler w/long shank (2 pr)................$3.45
#001 10 300......True-Scale Coupler w/short shank (10 pr)...........$15.95
#001 10 301......True-Scale Coupler w/long shank (10 pr)............$15.95

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Re: Preview of upcoming MTL True-Scale Coupler system
« Reply #283 on: September 29, 2016, 12:56:57 AM »
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Re: Preview of upcoming MTL True-Scale Coupler system
« Reply #284 on: September 29, 2016, 10:32:16 AM »
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Wow! And it's not even October yet!
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