Athearn PS-1s announced

[unittrain]

Athearn announcements are up, some cool PS-1s schemes coming,
http://www.athearn.com/Search/Default.aspx?SearchTerm=50%27+PS1+Single+Box&CatID=TNRF

[sizemore]

Hopefully the walkways are properly attached.


The S.

[C855B]

I sure hope they fix the artwork for UP. That's the wrong medallion for the "AUTOMATED RAILWAY" brown scheme. Should have "railroad". It would be worth my while to contact them, because these are a staple of my modeling era on the UP, and I'd be buying one of every number... if they get it right.

And not for delivery until next June??? For a basic, no-frills boxcar? 

[Missaberoad]

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2983275

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2983273

Is it the wrong medallion? These appear to be 70's repaints of yellow/silver cars...

[C855B]

Well, then... crap! Thanks for the schooling, and the hard evidence.

I had no idea... honestly!... that the "Automated" slogan was continued past the 09/1969 image revision that dropped "railroad" from the medallion. I see '71 and '74 shop dates on those cars. Notes I have suggest that UP was very aggressive about the new medallion, and anything shopped that had a medallion received a new one, or had "railroad" painted over.

So, then - it is obvious there was a mixed-image period with 1960's "Automated" slogan cars not yet updated to "We Can Handle It" (1972-1975) but receiving the new medallion and new reporting marks (larger). Velly intellestingk!

[Missaberoad]

I don't know my UP paint scheme history anywhere near well enough. But here's another shot to complicate things

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2983279

[mark.hinds]

My SP box car book says theirs (and C&O's) had riveted side panels rather than welded.  I wonder if the model shows this? 

MH

[sirenwerks]

My SP box car book says theirs (and C&O's) had riveted side panels rather than welded.  I wonder if the model shows this? 

MH

Better not to wonder, and just be strongly surprised if that is the case.  It's a safe bet this is the same old MDC tooling as before and before that and before that...

[sirenwerks]

NP cars are serious foob.  NP had PS1s in the number range used but they were oddball 40' combination cars, not single sliding door 50-footers.  NP or not, I won't be buying to support the ignore N scale cause of Athearn.

[Missaberoad]

NP cars are serious foob.  NP had PS1s in the number range used but they were oddball 40' combination cars, not single sliding door 50-footers.  NP or not, I won't be buying to support the ignore N scale cause of Athearn.

I hate to be the one to disagree with everyone but the NP cars are from a 50' series 

31500-31788 were 50' single door boxes built by NP at Brainerd MN.

Not a PS-1 however.

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2804473
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=726146

[cjm413]

My SP box car book says theirs (and C&O's) had riveted side panels rather than welded.  I wonder if the model shows this? 

MH

Those SP cars aren't PS-1's:

http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/box/b050-44.htm

If you are bell-bent on a SP car, Intermountain's 50' box is a closer stand-in for this prototype.  They apparently chose to decorate them as B-50-47's rather than B-50-44's, but the model does have the same number of riveted side panels, a 8' door, and a straight sill despite the different ends and roof:

http://www.intermountain-railway.com/n/html/65921.htm

[cjm413]

My SP box car book says theirs (and C&O's) had riveted side panels rather than welded.  I wonder if the model shows this? 

MH

C&O single door PS-1's had welded side panels, scroll down a bit for the roster info:

http://steamerafreightcars.com/prototype/frtcars/protofrtcarsmain.html

[mark.hinds]

Those SP cars aren't PS-1's:

http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/box/b050-44.htm

If you are bell-bent on a SP car, Intermountain's 50' box is a closer stand-in for this prototype.  They apparently chose to decorate them as B-50-47's rather than B-50-44's, but the model does have the same number of riveted side panels, a 8' door, and a straight sill despite the different ends and roof:

http://www.intermountain-railway.com/n/html/65921.htm

Your link is to a B-50-44.  I was looking to represent the 1955 B-50-37 class, which was 50-foot, had the PS proprietary ends, a similar-looking side sill, but riveted sides.  However, I would need to redo the doors.  If you have Tony Thompson's SP box car book, check the index for "PS-1". 

C&O single door PS-1's had welded side panels, scroll down a bit for the roster info:

http://steamerafreightcars.com/prototype/frtcars/protofrtcarsmain.html

I defer to your C&O expertise.  However, your link may not cover the car in question, which doesn't really sound like a standard PS-1.  Note that my book says "... Class B-50-37.  For this class, a Chesapeake & Ohio design, their specification no. 6-CFB, for C&O class B-34, was used.  The builder was Pullman-Standard for both the SP and C&O cars, and riveted sides and door gussets were the primary departures from P-S's standard PS-1."

MH

[cjm413]

Your link is to a B-50-44.  I was looking to represent the 1955 B-50-37 class, which was 50-foot, had the PS proprietary ends, a similar-looking side sill, but riveted sides.  However, I would need to redo the doors.  If you have Tony Thompson's SP box car book, check the index for "PS-1". 

I defer to your C&O expertise.  The book says "... Class B-50-37.  For this class, a Chesapeake & Ohio design, their specification no. 6-CFB, for C&O class B-34, was used.  The builder was Pullman-Standard for both the SP and C&O cars, and riveted sides and door gussets were the primary departures from P-S's standard PS-1."

MH

SP B-50-37 was a double door PS-1 with riveted sides, and per the Steam Era Freight Cars roster, C&O also had double door cars with riveted sides...

If there's separate announcement from Athearn for double door cars, it appears we're talking about two different models....d'oh!

[mark.hinds]

(text removed)  If there's separate announcement from Athearn for double door cars, it appears we're talking about two different models....d'oh!

No, we're talking about the same Athearn announcement.  My original question was based on my idea that I could possibly duplicate a B-50-37 with this release.  From the replies, including yours, it appears that I could, if I redid the doors (not that hard to do).  Adding rivets would be a lot of work, but I suppose I could ignore them (3-foot rule).   The ends, roof, and sides (except for doors) appear to be reasonably correct for a kitbashed B-50-37, and those would have been more difficult to change. 

Anyway, thanks for taking the time to respond. 

MH