Keystone Details announces etched PRR baggage door overlays For MT baggage cars

[OldEastRR]

What's the size of the doors in scale feet? And the only way to get doors is to buy a complete kit?

[Lemosteam]

What's the size of the doors in scale feet? And the only way to get doors is to buy a complete kit?

The doors are sized to fit the MT car specifically. I don't recall their exact dimensions.

What are you getting at here?

[OldEastRR]

If I can use your doors on my own rebuild. Trying to make perfectly round perfectly positioned porthole windows of correct size is a pain. I don't mind buying a complete etching if that's how to get the doors. The thing is I've built my door openings to 5'6" square.

[peteski]

If I can use your doors on my own rebuild. Trying to make perfectly round perfectly positioned porthole windows of correct size is a pain. I don't mind buying a complete etching if that's how to get the doors. The thing is I've built my door openings to 5'6" square.

While john wasn't perfectly clear in this initial post, to me it looks like he is selling photoetched doors only (he mentioned that the car is not included).  Or if he is selling the entire etched car sides for $4 then he is not a very good businessmen. 

[Lemosteam]

How is this not clear?

The kit includes two doors of each size. Panel:


Nothing else was mentioned. No car, no car sides, just four etched doors, of either panel style or prothole style, each set of four doors is $4 + $1 s&h.

[Chris333]

It is clear to regular folks   

[peteski]

How is this not clear?

The kit includes two doors of each size. Panel:


Nothing else was mentioned. No car, no car sides, just four etched doors, of either panel style or prothole style, each set of four doors is $4 + $1 s&h.

I was pretty clear on what was included in your offer, but OldEastRR didn't seem to be clear on that.  Maybe he needed more than a photo to be sure what were selling. Something like text which stated: this offer only includes 4 doors of each type (with round or rectangular windows - 2 wide and 2 narrow).
  

[coosvalley]

I understood it was doors only, but I took the time to read the first post

[OldEastRR]

OK, just doors, that's perfect. What with so many etched sides and resin kits around I made the wrong assumptions. The doors are really all I need. 

[arbomambo]

This is pretty nifty!...is the door spacing, on the MT car, correct for the PRR cars?
I can see this technique being perfect to model the modernized doors of the actual Erie cars that serve as the prototype for the MT car!
Bruce

[Lemosteam]

This is pretty nifty!...is the door spacing, on the MT car, correct for the PRR cars?
I can see this technique being perfect to model the modernized doors of the actual Erie cars that serve as the prototype for the MT car!
Bruce

@arbomambo : door spacing is off, but is as close as anyone can get with a currently produced model IMHO.

[thomasjmdavis]

I can see this technique being perfect to model the modernized doors of the actual Erie cars that serve as the prototype for the MT car!

I'd be good for a couple sets of Erie doors, if someone with the time and talent wants to turn them out.

[Lemosteam]

This is pretty nifty!...is the door spacing, on the MT car, correct for the PRR cars?
I can see this technique being perfect to model the modernized doors of the actual Erie cars that serve as the prototype for the MT car!
Bruce

If the model is an Erie prototype, why does it not have Erie doors?

[Lemosteam]

I'd be good for a couple sets of Erie doors, if someone with the time and talent wants to turn them out.

@thomasjmdavis , Etching with a professional manufacturer is not an inexpensive proposition.  The initial tooling is a big hit, and there are minimum sheet size requirements, so you have to have a bunch of other stuff on the sheet in order to break even.

It so happens that these doors were an experiment that worked and I am selling the leftovers from my experiments.  But I have two more sheets coming with these and some other things on them (PRR horse car etchings).

I wish it were as simple as the RP stuff that one can just go online and purchase. 

These could be laser cut in thin acrylic by some enterprising lad (SOMEONE on here has a laser cutter, no?)...

[thomasjmdavis]

If the model is an Erie prototype, why does it not have Erie doors?

John,
The doors are correct for the car as originally built in the 1920s, but by the 50s. the doors had been replaced in many, if not all, cars.

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For the first, I would think we might get away with a modification of the existing door.  And for#2- simple enough to punch a hole through a bit of styrene.  But I have always liked the look of etched brass doors over plastic,.