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Centralia Superdome Passenger cars
« on: December 14, 2015, 02:29:31 PM »
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Intermountain has listed Centralia Superdome Passenger cars.

I haven't done much research, but I'm assuming these may be the Pullman Standard full dome cars originally designed for the Milwaukee Road, not the slab-sided Budd full dome car of the Great Northern. (The dome windows are wrong for that one.)




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Re: Centralia Superdome Passenger cars
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2015, 02:31:16 PM »
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CAN'T WAIT TO GET ONE OF THESE AND PAINT IT UP IN PENNSY!
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Re: Centralia Superdome Passenger cars
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2015, 02:32:45 PM »
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I'll be ordering 1-2 CN domes. :D
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Re: Centralia Superdome Passenger cars
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2015, 02:35:20 PM »
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Damn, no Santa Fe?  Wrong prototype? 

Should I order an undec and modify?

Would love to trade-in my Bachmann.
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Re: Centralia Superdome Passenger cars
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2015, 02:43:25 PM »
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Wrong prototype for Santa Fe and the dome windows are wrong. Don't know if it would provide a base for the M&R dome sides.
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Re: Centralia Superdome Passenger cars
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2015, 03:07:41 PM »
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This has potential to start building a mid-1980s-era Amtrak AutoTrain with heritage equipment.  Yippee!

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Re: Centralia Superdome Passenger cars
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2015, 03:25:55 PM »
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Amtrak still has one of this car running around 10031 Ocean View, typical IM choosing the scheme that was a temporary wrap instead of phase IVb or it current scheme phase III.
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Re: Centralia Superdome Passenger cars
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2015, 03:37:11 PM »
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Quote from: sundowner on December 14, 2015, 03:25:55 PM
Amtrak still has one of this car running around 10031 Ocean View, typical IM choosing the scheme that was a temporary wrap instead of phase IVb or it current scheme phase III.

There were at least 3 different full-dome prototypes (not counting the SP 3/4 domes).   The prototype for Centralia model is the "Superdome", built by Pullman-Standard for the Milwaukee, later sold to CN, Amtrak and others.   The current (last) Amtrak full dome car is an ex-GN "Great Dome" built by Budd.   The Santa Fe domes were also built by Budd and are the prototype for the Bachmann car.

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Re: Centralia Superdome Passenger cars
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2015, 03:43:32 PM »
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Quote from: sundowner on December 14, 2015, 03:25:55 PM
Amtrak still has one of this car running around 10031 Ocean View, typical IM choosing the scheme that was a temporary wrap instead of phase IVb or it current scheme phase III.

Yup. I think Ocean View makes the rounds on non-Superliner trains. We had it here in January on #391/392. We made a point to catch a round trip or two while it was running on our trains. Lovely car - heavy and six axles make for a smooth ride.
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Re: Centralia Superdome Passenger cars
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2015, 04:34:09 PM »
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Don't know if it would provide a base for the M&R dome sides.

No... the dome shape is completely wrong for a Budd Big or Great dome car.

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Amtrak still has one of this car running around 10031 Ocean View, typical IM choosing the scheme that was a temporary wrap instead of phase IVb or it current scheme phase III.

Ah... no they don't.  The car is a Budd Great Dome... the Fall paint scheme used on the IM model is based on one of the schemes the prototype has wore over the years.

Lets hope that flush windows will be included... would definitely affect how good the car will look if they are not...

And lets hope Kato yet offers at least the ATSF Big Dome to go along with their ATSF trainsets.
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Re: Centralia Superdome Passenger cars
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2015, 04:53:25 PM »
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No CONRAIL?

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Re: Centralia Superdome Passenger cars
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2015, 05:26:41 PM »
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Quote from: chicken45 on December 14, 2015, 02:31:16 PM
CAN'T WAIT TO GET ONE OF THESE AND PAINT IT UP IN PENNSY!

I've got mine!



Of course, the Transcontinental Pennsylvania has slightly different needs than the historical Pennsy.  :D

The brass sides I used were for the GN Budd cars.
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Re: Centralia Superdome Passenger cars
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2015, 06:00:35 PM »
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Happy days are here again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll be taking out a second mortgage..... :o

Both GN's, two CN's both Milwaukee roads..... yesh!

Well done IM!
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Re: Centralia Superdome Passenger cars
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2015, 06:05:47 PM »
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No CONRAIL?

If they did Conrail it would be a fooby, like the GN, BN and Amtrak "Fall Folliage" cars are.  The Conrail car, now owned by Norfolk Southern, is a former ATSF Budd car.
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Re: Centralia Superdome Passenger cars
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2015, 06:42:04 PM »
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The Santa Fe domes were also built by Budd and are the prototype for the Bachmann car.

To be picky, the prototype for the old Bachmann car is the ATSF Budd dome after it was modified for Auto-Train, which is where the big letterboard comes from.

I do second the motion for Kato to reproduce the ATSF dome (either or both versions), perhaps for a San Francisco Chief. 

But all that said, I am happy for my Milwaukee Road friends that this dome is on the way.  And I am also happy that there is at least one new passenger car that I don't have to buy, as my dollars are committed to various bits of N scale vaporware (CEI F units) and various other things that have been hinted at (single window coach), and MT cars to be used for cores for the L&N coaches coming from BCS.
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