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reinhardtjh

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Re: New N scale Tooling from Bluford Shops!
« Reply #45 on: August 31, 2015, 06:32:23 AM »
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For PRR fans:

Referencing Pennsylvania Railroad Steel Open Hopper Cars by John Teichmoeller

The PRR had 300 of these cars as class GLd.  In 1919 the PRR was originally allocated 2,000 and PRR Lines West ( which up until 1920 acted as a separate entity from the main PRR) was allocated 2,500.  Some background wheeling and dealing ended up with PRR getting an actual count of 300 USRA cars while the resources for the rest went toward 3,000 H25 class cars.  These 300 cars were originally lettered and delivered to the Long Island RR as #'s 5000-5299.  Later between 1929 and 1930 they were transferred to PRR and numbered 220000 - 220299.  They hung around until the early 1950's as in the 1950 OERR there were 295 still listed, but by 1953 only 39 remained and they were virtually gone by 1958.  With a total roster of the GL and H series hoppers totaling just under 100,000 in the 1930's, this group of 300 cars is pretty minor, but the looks can be different enough from the prolific GLa class to make a nice change.

How does this pertain to the new Bluford Shop release?  Although none come lettered for the PRR (yet - 2nd run?) they are offering undecorated models and Microscale has just released a decal set (60-1510) which has markings for the GLd so rolling your own isn't that much of a stretch.

As for my other interest, the C&O:

Referencing Chesapeake & Ohio Freight Cars 1937-1965: Volume 1 Hopper and Gondola Cars by Al Kresse, Jr and Chesapeake & Ohio Freight Cars 1937-1946 by Carl Shaver (with Al Kresse and Karen Parker)

The C&O was allocated 2,000 of these cars and they were built in 1919 and given road numbers 62000 - 63999.  In 1932 a group of twenty-three were rebuilt with paneled sides which increased their capacity by nearly a ton of coal.  However, these cars were never listed separately in the OERR.  The rest were rebuilt as needed with the bulk (1973) (re-)rebuilt in 1943 - 46.  These latter rebuilds had a slightly higher capacity due to the additions of end extensions of various types (arch, single notched and double notched).  This group of cars lasted until 1954 when they were stricken from the C&O roster.

In addition, there were two other small groups of USRA clones which the C&O acquired through mergers in 1925.  Cars 19300-19389 came from the merging The Sandy River & Elkhorn Railroad company and cars 20975 - 20999 with The Sewell Valley RR.  Later, in 1933, ex-SV cars 20988 - 20999 were sold to the NYC.  All of the remaining acquisition cars  were retired by 1953.

The C&O also bought 2,000 cars in the 60000 - 61999 series in 1917 and 1918 which were very close to the specifications and looks of the USRA series cars being 6" shorter in length and 8" in height.  Rivet patterns vary also.  These would be a close stand-in, but not exact.  Of these, there were twenty-four cars were rebuilt in 3 batchs into covered hoppers and assigned 200 series numbers - 200 - 218 (1932, 1934) and 219 - 223 (1936).   These cars were all retired by 1950.

These cars all originally were built with Andrews trucks and retained them throughout their service.

From the depiction in the Bluford Shops announcement, it appears that the model offered will be a late 1930's rebuild before end extensions were added.
John H. Reinhardt
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Mark5

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Re: New N scale Tooling from Bluford Shops!
« Reply #46 on: August 31, 2015, 08:40:11 AM »
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Much easier - they come with body mounted couplers.

The Bachmann car also has body mounted couplers. I'm sure the Bluford car will be nicer, with many releases as a bonus.


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Re: New N scale Tooling from Bluford Shops!
« Reply #47 on: August 31, 2015, 10:00:34 AM »
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I'm thinking that the Buford cars with have better couplers.


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Re: New N scale Tooling from Bluford Shops!
« Reply #49 on: August 31, 2015, 12:30:01 PM »
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The Virginian USRA cars referenced in the Trainlife link that I posted were all retired around 1950 or so. (VGN class H-9 & H-10)

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Re: New N scale Tooling from Bluford Shops!
« Reply #50 on: August 31, 2015, 03:43:52 PM »
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The BR&P Ry. got 800 of these, so I had hopes; even at a price point I swore I'd never pay for a common n scale car.
Unfortunately, if these are late 30's rebuilds it leaves us out- we-uns became part of the B&O in 1932...

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Re: New N scale Tooling from Bluford Shops!
« Reply #51 on: August 31, 2015, 11:37:33 PM »
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I do hope that Bluford intends to make some with peaked ends...

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Re: New N scale Tooling from Bluford Shops!
« Reply #52 on: September 01, 2015, 10:46:48 AM »
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The BR&P Ry. got 800 of these, so I had hopes;
Yes, we will be doing Buffalo Rochester & Pittsburgh and many many other road names in the future...
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Re: New N scale Tooling from Bluford Shops!
« Reply #53 on: September 01, 2015, 01:03:04 PM »
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The Virginian USRA cars referenced in the Trainlife link that I posted were all retired around 1950 or so. (VGN class H-9 & H-10)

Thanks so much Mark5... they squeak in just under the wire at 1949!!!  I also appreciate you sharing the Classes with me... will make finding shots just a little easier!!!

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Re: New N scale Tooling from Bluford Shops!
« Reply #54 on: September 02, 2015, 12:31:11 PM »
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UPDATE!
After much discussion between freight car historians at the New York Central System Historical Society, we are adding the black background to the NYC oval logo on our Big Four-NYC hoppers. We are also adding the S- prefix to the road numbers. The meaning of the S- is the subject of some debate. The leading theory is that it was a signal to NYC System freight agents that despite the CCC&StL (or MC, T&OC, B&A, etc.) reporting marks, the car is part of the greater New York Central System and need not be sent "home" when empty when the car is already on another System line or be accounted for as a foreign car rental.  The competing theory is that the S- is a signal to car shop crews regarding limits on the car's repair budget. Check out the revised artwork here: http://www.bluford-shops.com/bluford_93_031.htm

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Re: New N scale Tooling from Bluford Shops!
« Reply #55 on: September 02, 2015, 12:58:07 PM »
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It could be both.

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Re: New N scale Tooling from Bluford Shops!
« Reply #56 on: September 03, 2015, 04:25:43 PM »
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FYI the New Haven car has been deemed good over on the NH historical association forum for the late 20s first repaint of these cars. I need the as delivered scheme so I have not decided whether to pull the New Haven off or paint undecs. But I will definitely be getting some of these.

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Re: New N scale Tooling from Bluford Shops!
« Reply #57 on: September 03, 2015, 05:39:59 PM »
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FYI the New Haven car has been deemed good over on the NH historical association forum for the late 20s first repaint of these cars. I need the as delivered scheme so I have not decided whether to pull the New Haven off or paint undecs. But I will definitely be getting some of these.
Are you referring to the cars with "NYNH&H" instead of the "NEW HAVEN" lettering? We do have pictures of that one as well.

Craig
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Re: New N scale Tooling from Bluford Shops!
« Reply #58 on: September 03, 2015, 05:46:34 PM »
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Craig

Yes the NYNH&H is the as delivered paint scheme. The scheme you have chosen was started in about 1933.  This model will also do the 115000 series that came in 1929. Its a nice model Craig. Thanks!

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Re: New N scale Tooling from Bluford Shops!
« Reply #59 on: September 03, 2015, 08:48:56 PM »
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Between Bluford and Atlas, P&WV is suddenly getting a lot of attention!

Hoping for NKP in a future run.

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I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.