MTL heavyweight baggage car

[Paradise275]

OK Joe.
Now you see haw much this head end car is in demand.
Getting back to my origional question. Will these cars be available in multi road numbers
or will MTL make decals available so cars can be re-numbered?

Rick

Oh, and by the way, I hope you haven't forgotten about doing Canadian National in green.

[peteski]

Finally a source for the angled roof vents that seem so prevalent with eastern and southeastern head-end cars!!!  I'll definitely will be needing some roofs!!!

It should be easy enough to make a simple RTV rubber 1-piece open mold of the vents then cast them from resin.  They are also fairly simple shape which could be 3D printed.

[JoeD]

I hope so.  If demand is what I think it will be, then I can come back in a few months and start offering runner or two packs as we have done with our other heavyweights.  I don't see why this would be any different.  Haven't forgotten about the CN cars, we are leading off the series in a month or two .

thanks

Joe

OK Joe.
Now you see haw much this head end car is in demand.
Getting back to my origional question. Will these cars be available in multi road numbers
or will MTL make decals available so cars can be re-numbered?

Rick

Oh, and by the way, I hope you haven't forgotten about doing Canadian National in green.

[thomasjmdavis]

"Haven't forgotten about the CN cars, we are leading off the series in a month or two ...."

OK, so now you are telling me that in addition to the 8 baggage cars, I am going to be buying an untold number of CN coaches and parlor cars later this year?

Dear hobby shop:
Lazy model railroader looking for second job.  Salary not necessary, but generous employee discount a must, and decent coffee.

[Puddington]

"Haven't forgotten about the CN cars, we are leading off the series in a month or two ...."

OK, so now you are telling me that in addition to the 8 baggage cars, I am going to be buying an untold number of CN coaches and parlor cars later this year?

Dear hobby shop:
Lazy model railroader looking for second job.  Salary not necessary, but generous employee discount a must, and decent coffee.

.......oh it gets worse.... the 12-1 sleeper is 99% accurate for a CN series as is the 10-1-2..... the RPO is dead nuts for a GTW/CN version and the observation is "close enough for jazz" to not one, but two CNR versions............. I'm thinking you might just want to reserve a street corner and break out the kazzoo and banjo..... you're going to need a third income mate!

[thomasjmdavis]

.......oh it gets worse.... the 12-1 sleeper....

Luckily, for my wallet, CN/GTW had long since stopped running heavyweight sleepers in and out of Chicago in my mid 50s timeframe (although if Rapido wants to do the Green sleepers in N and really hit my wallet, by all means go for it). I think they were well into the rebuilding program that produced so many "streamline" heavyweights- but even those don't show up in any of the timetables or consists I have.  And I did not wait on the RPO- broke down and painted and decaled one for GTW.  But the parlors (if you revise to coach seating) and coaches are similar to many of the coaches that ran (although many of those were also rebuilt, many kept their original heavyweight looks, and some retired that way).

You are more an expert on CN than I am, so I will take your word that the green and black scheme is correct for some HW 12-1s and 10-1-2s, but those did not travel on the trains I am modeling.  But they sure will look good in that scheme, regardless.

Tom D

[Puddington]

....so I will take your word that the green and black scheme is correct for some HW 12-1s and 10-1-2s, but those did not travel on the trains I am modeling.  But they sure will look good in that scheme, regardless.

Tom D

What's even more scary is that I have photographic evidence of HW sleepers, unmodernized in CN 1961 grey and black.... running into the 70's..... I mean, did these guys ever retire anything....?

[jmlaboda]

.......oh it gets worse.... the 12-1 sleeper is 99% accurate for a CN series as is the 10-1-2.....

Yah, unlike CP the CN was an user of Pullman's cars and service and when the Antitrust Suite broke up the Pullman monopoly most (but not all) of the heavyweight cars that were in use on a specific line were sold to the railroad they ran on.  CN, unlike CP, picked up a lot of former Pullman sleepers.

CN was pretty good at utilizing AC on their heavyweight cars but I wonder, Puddy, if you are thinking of some of the old Colonist sleepers that were converted to coaches?  Some of these had their air ducts inside the clerestory roof, with some lasting until VIA in service and a number of them still in use today on tourist roads.

[Puddington]

Yah, unlike CP the CN was an user of Pullman's cars and service and when the Antitrust Suite broke up the Pullman monopoly most (but not all) of the heavyweight cars that were in use on a specific line were sold to the railroad they ran on.  CN, unlike CP, picked up a lot of former Pullman sleepers.

CN was pretty good at utilizing AC on their heavyweight cars but I wonder, Puddy, if you are thinking of some of the old Colonist sleepers that were converted to coaches?  Some of these had their air ducts inside the clerestory roof, with some lasting until VIA in service and a number of them still in use today on tourist roads.

Yes those but there are at least a half dozen old sleepers that got grey and black and were used on secondary northern Ontario routes into the 70's...  a couple of pictures in volume four of the Canadian Passenger Chronicals books...

[mcjaco]

Can't wait for these.  Lots of kitbash fodder!

[OldEastRR]

Now that I've seen the drawings on the MTL site I'm wondering if this is an RPO-Baggage? I'd like to see a posting of each side clearly stating the car type.

[Puddington]

Now that I've seen the drawings on the MTL site I'm wondering if this is an RPO-Baggage? I'd like to see a posting of each side clearly stating the car type.

This is an Erie prototype baggage express car; it doesn't have an RPO compartment at all.



Joe says they are tooling up a mail-baggage but it's not as far along as the baggage car shown here.

[chicken45]

Will the discerning SPF have any business with these?

[JoeD]

Parts for the Mail Baggage are being tooled now and I hope to have shots soon.  We did an RP of the Horse car and it looks great.

Joe

[Puddington]

Parts for the Mail Baggage are being tooled now and I hope to have shots soon.  We did an RP of the Horse car and it looks great.

Joe

It is such a great time to be an N scale passenger modeller........... Thanks Joe and MTL.... keep bringing them out!