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Re: New MTL PRR Diner
« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2014, 09:25:52 AM »
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I wonder what that second tender is for.
Quote from: pjm20 on July 31, 2014, 08:28:56 AM
Here are some color photos of PRR MoW in grey (not my pictures):



This one (^) was taken in 2/1953. The PRR switched over to yellow in 7/1953



1952



7/1953. This may prove that some MoW were strglers after the official repaint, but for how long?

More of the album these came from on rrpicturearchives: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/archiveThumbs.aspx?id=51983
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Re: New MTL PRR Diner
« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2014, 09:31:36 AM »
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Quote from: chicken45 on July 31, 2014, 09:25:52 AM
I wonder what that second tender is for.

Water.

Interesting.  The 40' bulkhead flatcar in the middle photo appears to be the prototype for the old Atlas/RivaRossi model.
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Re: New MTL PRR Diner
« Reply #32 on: July 31, 2014, 12:38:02 PM »
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Quote from: bbussey on July 31, 2014, 09:31:36 AM
Interesting.  The 40' bulkhead flatcar in the middle photo appears to be the prototype for the old Atlas/RivaRossi model.

If true, that's quite an eagle eye you've got there! I wasn't aware the PRR had this class of car. Do you think it's lettered for the PRR?  But it is painted gray, so, hmmm. Interesting.
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Re: New MTL PRR Diner
« Reply #33 on: July 31, 2014, 01:40:50 PM »
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Quote from: bbussey on July 31, 2014, 09:31:36 AM
Water.


Yes, but why? Potable? Nonpotable? I figure if it was meant for the engine, it wouldn't be in MOW paint.

I remember this for fire fighting:


There was also three F31a's that had two tender shells on it that contained weed spraying equipment.
I had to stop browsing that website because of that infuriating MIDI smooth jazz that IS TURNED ON BY DEFAULT.
Seriously, I knew that was poor form back in high school. Amirite, Ed?
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Re: New MTL PRR Diner
« Reply #34 on: July 31, 2014, 01:56:43 PM »
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Re: New MTL PRR Diner
« Reply #35 on: July 31, 2014, 02:09:51 PM »
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I thought this thread was about Micro-Trains' Diner. Talk about thread drift...


Hmm... like the iceberg
that drifted in front of
the Titanic...

« Last Edit: July 31, 2014, 02:39:43 PM by Kisatchie »
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Re: New MTL PRR Diner
« Reply #36 on: July 31, 2014, 02:33:57 PM »
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Quote from: Kisatchie on July 31, 2014, 02:09:51 PM
I thought this thread was about Micro-Train's Diner. Talk about thread drift...

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Re: New MTL PRR Diner
« Reply #37 on: July 31, 2014, 02:34:55 PM »
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Am I correct that this is a D78R class?
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Re: New MTL PRR Diner
« Reply #38 on: July 31, 2014, 02:38:59 PM »
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Quote from: Bob Bufkin on July 31, 2014, 02:34:55 PM
Am I correct that this is a D78R class?

Joe said something about D78b or D78c.

"R" means refrigerated, right? And do the letters mean subclasses?
It could be a bR or a cR?

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Re: New MTL PRR Diner
« Reply #39 on: July 31, 2014, 03:27:51 PM »
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Quote from: towl1996 on July 31, 2014, 12:38:02 PM
If true, that's quite an eagle eye you've got there! I wasn't aware the PRR had this class of car. Do you think it's lettered for the PRR?  But it is painted gray, so, hmmm. Interesting.

It has to be Pennsy MOW, as it's in the MOW consist.  It could be an F30 with bulkheads added for all we know.  But at that distance, it sure does look like the Atlas/RR model.  And, most if not all of the Atlas/RR tooling from the late 1960s was based on actual prototypes even if the model never was painted in the prototype's scheme.  So it would be interesting to learn what the prototype is for the 40' bulkhead model and if Pennsylvania had them.

UPDATE:  I just checked George Irwin's site, under the A1G section.  The model was tooled in Austria by Roco, not in Italy by RivaRossi.  No information there on what prototype the model was based on.

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Re: New MTL PRR Diner
« Reply #40 on: July 31, 2014, 03:44:24 PM »
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Quote from: pjm20 on July 29, 2014, 04:22:45 PM
To clarify the exact PRR Diner, this is a D78bR (R for airconditioning):

Personally I am going to rid these of their nasty airconditioning equipment to bring them back to D78b.  :D

What exactly has to be modified? And when (year) were the diners modified (from D87b to D78bR)? Did they ever have a round roof, as suggested elsewhere in this thread?

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Re: New MTL PRR Diner
« Reply #41 on: July 31, 2014, 03:49:26 PM »
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Quote from: chicken45 on July 31, 2014, 02:38:59 PM
Joe said something about D78b or D78c.


Hmm... is the D78c the
Clown car? Packed with
700 or 800 clowns...?

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Re: New MTL PRR Diner
« Reply #42 on: July 31, 2014, 04:21:00 PM »
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D78 classes.  D78, D78R, D78a, D78aR, D78b, D78bR, D78c, D78dR, D78ddR, D78edR and D78fR.  Some modified with round roofs and some kept the old roofs.  I do know that the D78ddR diners had diesel engines for electric to the diners (i.e. electric stove, etc).  You need to get Pennsylvania Dining Cars by Liliestrand and Sweetland which covers all PRR diners.  It also listes the dates of use of the diners which comes in handy for modeling purposes.
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Re: New MTL PRR Diner
« Reply #43 on: July 31, 2014, 05:09:09 PM »
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Quote from: chicken45 on July 31, 2014, 01:40:50 PM
Yes, but why? Potable? Nonpotable? I figure if it was meant for the engine, it wouldn't be in MOW paint.

The Central Vermont used extra tenders on work trains so that they could work harder for longer without needing to stop for water. This is probably similar.
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Re: New MTL PRR Diner
« Reply #44 on: July 31, 2014, 07:43:21 PM »
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Quote from: Bob Bufkin on July 31, 2014, 04:21:00 PM
D78 classes.  D78, D78R, D78a, D78aR, D78b, D78bR, D78c, D78dR, D78ddR, D78edR and D78fR.  Some modified with round roofs and some kept the old roofs.  I do know that the D78ddR diners had diesel engines for electric to the diners (i.e. electric stove, etc).  You need to get Pennsylvania Dining Cars by Liliestrand and Sweetland which covers all PRR diners.  It also listes the dates of use of the diners which comes in handy for modeling purposes.

I have all the books in that series! Great books!  What's the difference between the b and c, though?
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