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Re: Pennsy N scale M1 Build
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2013, 11:12:59 AM »
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Hey thanks guys,

Max, you're correct the stanchions will need to removed, although the wire can be threaded through.  This will possibly  be true for other details also.  I cast the boiler with as much detail as possible to show where the details go and exactly how they look.  For heavily handled models some details will need to be replace such as bells, whistles and railing on the smoke box door.  On the particular casting the front running board floats out 1/4" it will need to b3 braced or replaced. 

Thanks for the nice comments, this place can seem like a wolf pack sometimes!

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Re: Pennsy N scale M1 Build
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2013, 11:17:40 AM »
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Re: Pennsy N scale M1 Build
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2013, 11:34:31 AM »
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I will purchase the pilots from Jeff ( if available) and provide them

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Re: Pennsy N scale M1 Build
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2013, 03:54:26 PM »
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Here is just some test fitting on the modified frame.  Please excuse the cylinders, this mechanism was also used to test fit my streamlined UP 49e.  Info on milling the frame to is coming.
The walkway at the front of the engine are removed and will need to be added back on by the builder.  I have removed my headlight to make a post war.




 
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Re: Pennsy N scale M1 Build
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2013, 04:19:15 PM »
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Is now a bad time to mention that the butt of everyone's jokes is actually in tooling?   ;)

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Re: Pennsy N scale M1 Build
« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2013, 04:29:33 PM »
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Is now a bad time to mention that the butt of everyone's jokes is actually in tooling?   ;)

Is this different than the last 8 years or so it was allegedly in tooling?   :trollface:

Thanks for the heads' up on those PRR parts!

Jason, what trailing truck did you use?  Looks like a Trix, or is it something else with the GHQ/RLW sideframes?

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Re: Pennsy N scale M1 Build
« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2013, 04:54:44 PM »
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Its the stock trailing truck with the rear box cut off and reshaped and filed. ... It fits the role for now.

Here is the frame milled out... 
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Re: Pennsy N scale M1 Build
« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2013, 09:13:06 PM »
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I tried to modify my previous post but timed out.
Here is a pic of the frame stock.
All milling work was done with a dremel tool which included cutting disk, carbide bits and sanding bits.  Recommend having a cup of water to cool the frame as you make your cuts.
As you can see I have done a significant amount of milling to the original frame.  I have long been of the opinion that its better to mill off more frame material than necessary and then replace the void with tungsten. Again please ignore the milling on the sides of the cylinders, the mechanism was also used to test fit my Union Pacific streamlined 4-8-2.

The cradle of the motor has largely been removed due to clearance issues.  That firebox gets tight! The motor has a clip which is held in place by the frame.  On my engine the rear clip, which prevents deflection, has been removed.  It is possible that a portion of the rear clip can be retained, I elected to cut it off and fully secure the motor with a small amount of epoxy.

When making cuts, do not mill off front mounting point for cylinders, it a screw hole that is very much needed.  Removing frame material above the cylinder is needed to avoid loosing the visible bottom of the smoke box.



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Re: Pennsy N scale M1 Build
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2013, 10:26:46 PM »
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Holy crap... that's a lot of milling!  Glad I have a metal-cutting blade for my bandsaw... I hope that takes some of the work out of the modifications.  Personally, I'd rather make as few modifications to the chassis as I can, but I also know that boring out those castings is a delicate and tedious art.  Milling the chassis may be more a matter of "safety" (i.e. not blowing out a good casting!) than practicality. 

Without the original M1 for comparison, it's hard to tell if the boiler height is correct.  My gut tells me it's a bit too high, but without the brass version to compare to, your mileage may vary. 

My two J's showed up today.  I can't wait to get started on these M1's! 

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Re: Pennsy N scale M1 Build
« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2013, 11:23:23 PM »
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Actually the casting is very thin in multiple locations.  But I think your gut was right so, I disassembled the mechanism rounded off the frame in front of the worm surround and took a little more material from inside the firebox sides. 


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Re: Pennsy N scale M1 Build
« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2013, 03:03:51 AM »
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Superturbine,

I do admire you casting ability but I do ask who owns the pattern rights you are casting?

Do you give a iron clad guarantee that you have the rights to reproduce those patterns.

You may note I have never ever brought one of your items.

I may cop flak over this but when you pay a lot of money for patterns to be made as I do and get ripped off for thousands of dollars each year I will ask the question.

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Re: Pennsy N scale M1 Build
« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2013, 03:51:06 AM »
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Sorry Al,
No international shipping, I have had too many problems with items getting damaged in shipping. 
Oh, and PM me for other inquires.
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Re: Pennsy N scale M1 Build
« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2013, 06:48:22 AM »
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Read the question,  I never asked for international shipping I have a USA address.

I can do what you are doing but what I asked is do do you have an iron clad guarantee that you have the rights to do what you are doing.

I never mentioned anything about international shipping. I will not PM you just answer the question.  I ship internationally all the time and the only time I have problems is when I do not pack it correctly.

Funny thing but when I get stuff sent from the Indiana address I never have anything go wrong maybe cause he is old and takes care.

Regards

Al
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Re: Pennsy N scale M1 Build
« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2013, 08:46:24 AM »
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To answer you question-
When I get a demand letter, from a dead person who owns a now bankrupt company in Korea, whose molds where destroyed, your answer with be NO.  But I have sought and gotten permission from those I can.  When you say Iron Clad, Apple and Samsung do not have IRON Clad permission to make there current PHONEs.  You seem a little belligerent, from  here on out this is my engine built thread, you can post all you want, but I am building my engine. 

GOOD DAY SIR,

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Re: Pennsy N scale M1 Build
« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2013, 12:17:23 PM »
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Jason, you could always arrange a meeting with Teresa Caputo (the Long Island Medium), and enlist her services to ask permission directly from the deceased owner of Samhongsa...  :-)   
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