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Re: Great Dividing Range Mining Company
« Reply #75 on: January 25, 2014, 04:43:24 PM »
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I like the paint scheme......

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Re: Great Dividing Range Mining Company
« Reply #76 on: January 25, 2014, 11:45:10 PM »
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Do you have any other equipment for the mining op that you could post?

None yet, the P&H 4100 has set the bar for detail so I'm getting a bit picky now on what I'll be getting. I know I'll need a grader, a couple of haul trucks and a bunch of service vehicles to round out the Mt Isa area.

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Re: Great Dividing Range Mining Company
« Reply #77 on: January 27, 2014, 05:54:51 AM »
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Yes, it's that time again, more dodgy phone camera pictures!



Started a benchwork section, after a few trackplan revisions this section will support a large port scene with an ore loader and smaller area for general freight (and imported locomotives). Slowly slowly...

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Re: Great Dividing Range Mining Company
« Reply #78 on: July 23, 2014, 10:56:21 AM »
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So.....sorry to bring up an old thread yada yada..... :trollface:

Despite the short HO diversion (the HO equipment I've got will be put to use on a club layout) I'm sticking with N scale and the benchwork being modular made rearranging it all closer to the original 3 level plan quite easy. Sadly it makes mind changes easy to accomodate (d'oh). Anyway...I'll have some photos of the changes made and where it stands soon (tomorrow rather) but here's a teaser-ish shot of a 90 car test train sitting on some unitrack that's standing in for some nice ME Code 55 track:


This is passing up thru Charters Towers on the second/middleish level (back down the grade to Townsville is at the bottom right, up to Mt Isa is middle left). Charters Towers will be the junction point for the mainline and the Lolworthy Creek Coal Mine branch which can be seen passing thru where there will be backdrop at the top of the grade where the 2 blue blobs are....shoddy camera phone picture...more to come!

Also, I've joined the blogging world:
http://gdrmco.blogspot.com.au/
Enjoy my brain dumps  :facepalm:

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Re: Great Dividing Range Mining Company
« Reply #79 on: July 24, 2014, 06:58:08 AM »
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Leggy,
Glad to see that the N scale is back..!
Nice long trains will be great..

Now to get it up and running before the convention in QLD next year (no pressure! - Much).

On your blog site. Can you go into the set up and enable people to follow your updates.. That way I can go into my blogspot account and check in on yours and all the others I follow at the same time.. (in settings, then layout.. Add a gadget called followers. The followers is in the more gadgets tab on the left once you choose to add one).

Just a thought!
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Re: Great Dividing Range Mining Company
« Reply #80 on: July 24, 2014, 07:07:47 AM »
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Added the gadget!

I'll be going full throttle from here to atleast get the mainline and coal/ore loadouts/rotary dumpers working before the convention. Need atleast something to show off  :facepalm:

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Re: Great Dividing Range Mining Company
« Reply #81 on: July 24, 2014, 09:45:57 PM »
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Brace yourselves, photos taken with an actual camera are coming  :scared:




Well work has stopped for a little as our roo damaged vehicle has been repaired and drained the fun bucks fund but as that's out of the way it'll be back to normal next week. With that said some photos of where I'm at so far.....

The above shot is the entrance to the layout and what can be seen, there is a duckunder set at 1700mm above the floor (about eye level for me and really a 'stoop under') that carries the tracks from the climb up thru Cloncurry on the left to the side of the peninsula where it will wrap around and eventually run to Mt Isa at the end of the upper level.




Looking left (that's the underside of the duckunder and the upper level at the top of shot) we see the end of the Townsville Jetty Branch that will have the coal unloading loop and associated buildings. The white ply sheets are only temporary for the photos to show the benchwork. It's not entirely finished and may get a tad wider, the loop end will be blob'd out a bit also.




On the other side is the beginning of the climb up the eastern side of the Great Dividing Range (as shown in the first photo). The grade on average up the eastern side to GDR Summit is a stiff 3%, empty coal trains won't need helpers and the ore trains run with DPUs however most other trains will run with helpers from Townsville up to the summit. The benchwork in the top of frame is the duckunder.




This is looking back down towards the duckunder, Townsville Jetty Branch on the lower right, eastern side of the GDR lower left, part of the upper level peninsula benchwork at top of frame (yet to be finished to the duckunder) and the duckunder and upper level benchwork is in the top middle of shot. Still a bit to go before the foam gets laid down.....




A quick view of the unfinished upper level benchwork.




This is the end of the peninsula, the right side heads back down to Townsville, the left side continues up to GDR Summit then on down the west slope to Charters Towers (benchwork over on the far left of shot). Minimum radius here is about 21". Reflecting the busy nature of this RR there will be three tracks thru here, from Townsville to GDR Summit the line is triple tracked (empties, loaded ore, loaded coal). It'll be an interesting job to dispatch trains thru the area as not just coal and ore trains will be running, there'll be intermodals both directions along with unit fuel, ballast, mine supply, unit acid and copper concentrate trains. Oh, and let's not forget the daylight and overnight passenger trains....




The Upper level end of the peninsula, needs more to be done....




Coming around the peninsula and the climb is still hard, the now middle level benchwork can be seen below with the upper level above. Only some sections of the layout are actually triple deck, most of it is double decked. This was originally going to be the site of Charters Towers with the junction to the Lolworthy Creek coal mine up in the back corner (far far benchwork) but I decided to move it down along the benchwork as 1) Charters Towers is actually on the western side of the GDR, not the east and 2) it extends the run between towns (even tho Charters Towers is now above Townsville).




Another peninsula! Well not really, this section was added on to add some extra run to the mainline (also visually separates some sections). The climb looking steep is party a trick of the camera as it doesn't appear that steep in person, it's also partly because the other side of the peninsula gets to 3.5% just before the summit. It's about 2m or so of track that'll be at the steepest gradient but that's it as far as hard climbs go.




The other peninsula blob, it's yet to be entirely finished (will be more blobesque).




Looking at the other side of the peninsula peninsula, you can see both blobs in this view, won't be able to once the backdrop goes up. The upper level isn't in yet.




The climax point of the climb is the GDR Summit, here all 3 levels can be seen with Townsville on the bottom, GDR Summit in the middle and the eastern end of Mt Isa above. Across the backdrop from the summit is the beginning of the Lolworthy Creek Coal branch, there will be a helper pocket and junction here for trains to Lolworthy Creek Coal Mine. From here the track heading west is double track, the third mainline track splitting off to Lolworthy Creek Coal Mine. Signs will need to be placed here marking West and East as the western end of Townsville is on the lower level, however due to passing thru the backdrop and looping back around the peninsula the line swaps directions as you go from standing on the north side of the tracks (Townsville) to standing on the south side of the tracks (everywhere else). Never Eat Soggy Weetbix.....




Another view of the area, more unfinished upper level benchwork. Happily the upper level is the only unfinished section so far and not much is really needed to finish it. Onward and downward, leftward and frontward!




Oh look, trackplans....




Turning the corner from the last shot we see the main section (unfinished) of Mt Isa above Charters Towers in the middle and Townsville on the bottom. In a self inflicted dick move there's alot going on in this one area however, in this part of Townsville yard there is only the ore yards (arrivals and departures) and associated loco and rolling stock servicing facilities and workshops, the rest of the Tville industries are on the Jetty Branch. Charters Towers here is merely sidings, a ballast pit at one end, a station in the middle and a fuel storage facility at the other end requiring not a huge amount of work.




Looking further along, where the sheet of ply is is where the 2 rotary dumpers for the ore trains will be, passing infront of that will be the tracks to the Jetty Branch. Down that end also will be the iron ore loadout at Mt Isa on the top level. This silly approach of putting everything together was chosen as the close proximity of the loadout and unloader allows for the complex and rocket geologist designed system of a bucket to collect dumped ore and a smaller bucket to return dumped ore to the loadout bin to be located together. Less leg work equals less work to reload the loadout equals a happier me. Why don't you just position the loadout over the dumper and save the need to run trains you say? No fun in that!




A slightly higher view, Mt Isa is just at eye level for me and I'm considering a step ledge along the floor to make switching the joint easier. Otherwise I'm happy with it and I've got no choice anyway, keeping a decent amount of space between decks is a tad difficult in places where I'm trying to follow the real geography....




The rotary ore dumper section.




Looking back the other way at Mt Isa.


Closing in on being able to start laying foam sheets on top of the benchwork sections (or modules as they are) and once I get the base layer in I'll be able to rough in the roadbed and basic scenery and get tracklaying. The old man laid down the challenge of having trains running by the end of the month....chop chop.....


This is a shameless repost from my blog: http://gdrmco.blogspot.com.au/2014/07/better-late-than-never-photos.html

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Re: Great Dividing Range Mining Company
« Reply #82 on: July 25, 2014, 12:17:17 AM »
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Thanks for the update.. Nice work..

Looking forward to seeing the progress... And keep away from Skippy.!
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Re: Great Dividing Range Mining Company
« Reply #83 on: July 25, 2014, 04:10:46 AM »
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Yes Leggy,
Keep up the work rate. If you need some advice on the dumper let me know.
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Re: Great Dividing Range Mining Company
« Reply #84 on: July 25, 2014, 06:02:10 AM »
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I'll keep that in mind Noel, the only thing I'm really unsure of is the electronics side of it as the actual design and construction is looking to be straight forward. Just gotta make it work......oh and I'll need 3 of them....

Also going to be doing a small project concerning the rotary couplers needed for the layout and I'll make sure to keep this thread posted with the progress on that.

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Re: Great Dividing Range Mining Company
« Reply #85 on: July 25, 2014, 10:06:07 AM »
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Both issues are easily resolved I believe, eccentric arm hooked up to a low reving output shaft with a limit switch, whilst the rotary couplers can be fishing swivels that fit neatly into the micro trains couple box!
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Re: Great Dividing Range Mining Company
« Reply #86 on: July 25, 2014, 10:20:50 AM »
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The wiring part is what is on my mind, getting it all to work smoothly and reliably over and over and over and over again, and over and over.......

The rotary coupler project I've been working on (that actually helped me change my mind on HO) will produce actual working N scale rotary couplers, all cast in pewter. As a new floor is needed for the ore hoppers due to their plastic construction with no actual weight....the floors will be cast with part of the coupler box attached and the rest is a rounded barrel shank coupler and attaching plate (plus some other bits and bobs) that'll allow the coupler to not only rotate but also swing side to side like a normal coupler. The first attempt despite it's failures has proven to be the prototype for this never version, I just never planned to make a proper casting of the previous design....

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Re: Great Dividing Range Mining Company
« Reply #87 on: July 28, 2014, 10:47:25 AM »
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Well there's exciting news and pretty bad news.

Exciting - I'm heading off to university next year to study engineering (mechanical).

Pretty bad news - We're looking at renting a unit on the Gold Coast near the uni/small house (Griffith) and everything we've looked at either doesn't have a garage, has a 1 car garage or just plain doesn't have space for the layout and our car (we've got 2, 1 of which we rather keep indoors). So off I went looking for a storage unit for the layout and....well every storage unit I can find is either the right length or width but it's not both and I've spent the better part of the afternoon on the phone chasing down whatever cheaply rentable space I can find to move the layout to. The benchwork in all it's modular bits will happily fit in a storage unit but I'm not keen to leave benchwork in one of these things for 4 years and have to muck around trying to build scenery and trackwork on something I can't have together in an assembled form. And that brings me to.....

Do I just take it on the chin and wear the material costs sunk into this so far and dismantle the lot and toss it/cremate it?

or

Any ideas?


It's not the end of the world to dismantle it and toss it, I did dilly dally around and spent too many months this year on my hands (tho I hadn't planned on uni until a few months ago) but I'm not really wanting to toss it either. Anyone want to help plan a new layout for 4-5 years down the track?

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Re: Great Dividing Range Mining Company
« Reply #88 on: July 28, 2014, 06:17:09 PM »
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Leggy,
Wow what a roller coaster your on at the moment!.

Did you use any glue in what you have used? Assuming not, then probably best to just dismantle and keep the timber and reuse on Uni is done with.

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Re: Great Dividing Range Mining Company
« Reply #89 on: July 28, 2014, 07:37:39 PM »
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The modules are glued and screwed together so they're not coming apart, only from each other. I'm not real keen on mothballing it all for a few years in a storage unit to possibly be forgotten about.....kinda glad I did fluff about for so long as no actual track or scenery is lost  :facepalm: