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Re: Weekend Update 9/8/13
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2013, 10:41:07 AM »
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Did they, possibly, say something about how much $$$$$ (or, rather, €€€€€ or £££££) it was going to cost to produce as a solid? Since they price on volume of material, I can suppose that would get my attention.

No price was mentioned. In fact the only thing the e-mail said related to the model was that it should be hollow.

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Re: Weekend Update 9/8/13
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2013, 01:28:49 PM »
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No price was mentioned. In fact the only thing the e-mail said related to the model was that it should be hollow.

Shapeways usually mentions the need for the design to be watertight.  Whatever is on the inside of the model's surfaces will be filled with resin.  If that is how your model was designed (the entire outside shell made a watertight brick with hollow space inside, they should have had no problem printing is as such a solid brick. Expensive, but doable. Unless someone on their team realized that the shell should be printed using thin walls, with the inner space being free of resin, or hollow.  Did you redesign your model to have some thickness to its walls with the outside and inside being open space?  Sort of like an inverted bathtub - the walls have thickness but the center is devoid of material.
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Re: Weekend Update 9/8/13
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2013, 02:57:22 PM »
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A large piece of Masonite is possibly the least interesting photo ever.... but it is not a bridge pic like the last 3 months offerings have been ;)



Back to layout construction and I am installing a false wall panel over the window so that I can then mount photo backdrops to the upper and lower decks.  Backdrops come before tracklaying so I really had to get this panel in before extending the track any further.

I have made it so it screws into the top lighting canopy from the top and the lower deck from the bottom.  This will keep it removable and completely separate from the shelves in front of it.  No plans to remove it regularly though... just planning ahead in case.
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Re: Weekend Update 9/8/13
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2013, 04:00:14 PM »
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Doing some breaking in an my Cab Forward I just received back from IMRC. Now the question is to weather or not to weather????



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Re: Weekend Update 9/8/13
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2013, 04:27:11 PM »
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Shapeways usually mentions the need for the design to be watertight.  Whatever is on the inside of the model's surfaces will be filled with resin.  If that is how your model was designed (the entire outside shell made a watertight brick with hollow space inside, they should have had no problem printing is as such a solid brick. Expensive, but doable. Unless someone on their team realized that the shell should be printed using thin walls, with the inner space being free of resin, or hollow.  Did you redesign your model to have some thickness to its walls with the outside and inside being open space?  Sort of like an inverted bathtub - the walls have thickness but the center is devoid of material.

No mention of any problem with "watertight" design. The revised model is hollow. I set the thickness by calculating what a 1/16" wall would scale to in 1:160. I made the walls 10" thick. I haven't submitted the revised file to Shapeways yet, still working on some bugs...


Still wondering a bit that the detail will vanish when scaled down. I can change the scale in my software and still see the detail, but that doesn't mean it will print out.

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Re: Weekend Update 9/8/13
« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2013, 05:08:52 PM »
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That Cab Forward looks great Nick!

I think even a little weathering powder would make a big difference... Plus weathering powder allows for a little redo if necessary.

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Re: Weekend Update 9/8/13
« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2013, 05:27:26 PM »
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jereising , your layout shots never looked better . Ever think of a lift out where the gawkers and gwaker vehicles are so you can swap out the staged setting . 4th of July , band , school bus and kids , gawkers , Christmas , teanagers mooning , emergency responders , track workers , Railfan viewing site , etc ?   


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Re: Weekend Update 9/8/13
« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2013, 06:24:27 PM »
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Jim .. you need some fat guy that's in front of the photo line ... so no one can get their pics  :)

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Re: Weekend Update 9/8/13
« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2013, 06:39:08 PM »
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Something new on the Sub this week:

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Trespassers, all of 'em! Mr. Belmore would NOT be happy!

(Cars need to be a little more helter-skelter. No foamer event is ever going to be that "organized".) :D
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Re: Weekend Update 9/8/13
« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2013, 07:46:33 PM »
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Further to what Mike said, someone would be on the roof of their vehicle... gotta be at least one hardcore foamer in the lot  :facepalm:

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Re: Weekend Update 9/8/13
« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2013, 07:53:23 PM »
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No mention of any problem with "watertight" design. The revised model is hollow. I set the thickness by calculating what a 1/16" wall would scale to in 1:160. I made the walls 10" thick. I haven't submitted the revised file to Shapeways yet, still working on some bugs...

Still wondering a bit that the detail will vanish when scaled down. I can change the scale in my software and still see the detail, but that doesn't mean it will print out.

The current version if that model looks like it'll work.  You are right about small details - if they are smaller than the resolution of the printer, then they will  not show up on the printed model.  You are obviously quite capable of 3D CAD design, but you might want to browse through the Shapeways tutorials http://www.shapeways.com/tutorials to familiarize yourself with the quirks of 3D printing.
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Re: Weekend Update 9/8/13
« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2013, 10:25:54 PM »
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Doing some breaking in an my Cab Forward I just received back from IMRC. Now the question is to weather or not to weather????





Nick,

In my opinion, dirty it up. I've only seen "clean" ACs when they were shopped or in the case of 4274 when it ran over Donner for the last time. Weathering will give the loco more of a "personality" and make the details of the IM AC really "pop". That said, depending where they ran, they may tend to weather a little differently. From the Shasta to the Modoc to the Coast Line, they were very prevalent. Here's an example of my 4275, which spent most of it's life on the Coast Div. The "brownish" weathering is evident of the inland route (ie. Salinas Valley, SLO, etc.). I personally do not like to rely on "weathered black" too much. One thing I've learned to do is find a color photo of my "subject" and go from there......


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Re: Weekend Update 9/8/13
« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2013, 01:33:07 AM »
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I also agree that the cab forward steam unit should be weathered.    Alot!    I might add.....
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Re: Weekend Update 9/8/13
« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2013, 01:50:36 AM »
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Jim, I love this particular scene that your modeling!  :o And its off to a good start! However, Please consider dressing up and add alittle "Crazyness "  to this scene.
 Railfans get CRAZY when one of these beasts shows up! :D
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Re: Weekend Update 9/8/13
« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2013, 01:50:59 AM »
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Just keep them off the tracks.  Another railfan, this time a 50 year old man in New Zealand, has been run over standing in the middle of the tracks to get "the perfect photo".

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9141056/Train-victim-named
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