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Re: Proto-lanced Pennsy: Allegheny Division, Gallitzin, PA
« Reply #210 on: December 27, 2016, 11:01:08 AM »
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Quote from: Dave Vollmer on December 27, 2016, 10:45:28 AM
Maybe it's my Christmas flu talking but people not reading is a pet peeve of mine...

I don't know...  Seemed pretty damn clear to me:

Sure, it'll fit if you run it through a chipper first.  Seriously, was that a real question or just a reminder that you drive a Jaguar?   :facepalm:

I read mention of games of chance, and figured Josh actually came out ahead rather than loosing his trousers.
So I just missed the later part where he was seriously divulging the circumstances behind the acquisition process.

It was a real question. I drive through the Baltimore just about every other weekend on my way to WV. If it wasn't going to go through a move with Colonel Chicken, I've some recently cleared shelf space in my catacombs it probably would've been able to fit on. I'd probably just have to empty the backseat and take my fiancée's wheelchair out of my trunk. I only ditch the full-sized spare if WWII Signal Corps stuff is involved.
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Re: Proto-lanced Pennsy: Allegheny Division, Gallitzin, PA
« Reply #211 on: December 27, 2016, 07:05:18 PM »
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There's a big difference between "loose" and "lose", and doubly so when trousers are involved.

The straight section is 8 feet long. I forget how long the end loops are but prob another 4 feet.  Like all things Ed, it's long.
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Re: Proto-lanced Pennsy: Allegheny Division, Gallitzin, PA
« Reply #212 on: December 27, 2016, 07:51:39 PM »
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Quote from: chicken45 on December 27, 2016, 07:05:18 PM
Like all things Ed, it's long.

So there was loose trousers involved?  :trollface:
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Re: Proto-lanced Pennsy: Allegheny Division, Gallitzin, PA
« Reply #213 on: December 31, 2016, 11:57:58 AM »
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Ok. Things are happening! Ben dropped off the layout and it's in the basement!



Just spitballing some building placement here.


Possible AR location. The scene isn't exact, but I think it will be a nice vignette that conveys the prototype. Also forgive the shed placement. I think it should go on the other side and turned sideways.


A fun surprise: superelevation!


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Re: Proto-lanced Pennsy: Allegheny Division, Gallitzin, PA
« Reply #214 on: December 31, 2016, 12:13:07 PM »
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I managed to run some trains last night. Both DC and DCC and sound. No steam yet. I ran a Kato PA and a BLI PA, and a Kato NW2, and everything shorted out on most of the main line turnouts. I think the frogs are powered.
I don't know much about wiring, but there are switch machines under these. Maybe Ed or someone will come over this week and we can dig in a little further.

In the meantime, I'm coming to grips with different sets of limitations. The north side will be a 2 track main around AR. It will satisfy my prototypical main line rail fanning desire. I'm also likely going to do New Portage tunnel. It was a two track tunnel at one time. I can live/be happy with that. As far as the town and switching are concerned, my tastes have indeed changed since the original plan revisions. I may still call this town Gallitzin but it may end up being a generic town when it comes to industry. As we've learned, there wasn't much industry up there other than coal and coke. I don't know if I want to put a coal mine where Dr. Hotballs has his. I don't know, though. I don't want to make this the JD, but the JD does this plan so well I can't help but be influenced by it.

As always, let me have it, asshats! Tell me how you really feel!
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Re: Proto-lanced Pennsy: Allegheny Division, Gallitzin, PA
« Reply #215 on: January 01, 2017, 08:52:13 AM »
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Very nice start!

If it were mine I would squeeze in an interchange track somewhere to represent "off the layout" possibilities, but as I say it's a nice concept to begin with.
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Re: Proto-lanced Pennsy: Allegheny Division, Gallitzin, PA
« Reply #216 on: January 01, 2017, 10:10:38 AM »
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Quote from: MichaelWinicki on January 01, 2017, 08:52:13 AM
Very nice start!

If it were mine I would squeeze in an interchange track somewhere to represent "off the layout" possibilities, but as I say it's a nice concept to begin with.

Pennsy didn't have any interchanges at Gallitzin.  It did however have branch lines at Cresson nearby.
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Re: Proto-lanced Pennsy: Allegheny Division, Gallitzin, PA
« Reply #217 on: January 01, 2017, 10:53:02 AM »
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Quote from: Dave Vollmer on January 01, 2017, 10:10:38 AM
Pennsy didn't have any interchanges at Gallitzin.  It did however have branch lines at Cresson nearby.

That would work nicely too!

Just something to represent "off the layout" potential.
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Re: Proto-lanced Pennsy: Allegheny Division, Gallitzin, PA
« Reply #218 on: January 02, 2017, 07:40:33 PM »
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Heh. Just found that the Tim guy who built this layout is in fact, @sizemore !

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No, I said "Ed's Law."

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Re: Proto-lanced Pennsy: Allegheny Division, Gallitzin, PA
« Reply #219 on: January 02, 2017, 10:47:01 PM »
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Quote from: chicken45 on January 02, 2017, 07:40:33 PM
Heh. Just found that the Tim guy who built this layout is in fact, @sizemore !

The Size matters...that's why you need those loose - or was it lose - trousers...
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Re: Proto-lanced Pennsy: Allegheny Division, Gallitzin, PA
« Reply #220 on: January 03, 2017, 05:08:56 PM »
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Yep that's the old BYR! I was literally thinking about this yesterday, what became of my old HCD. While @Chris333 states it's a copy, I had reservations using the plan, but in my defense I am horribly un-creative on HCD layout design and really wanted to be up and running trains, I thought the Doctors prescription hit the mark. Hopefully the good Doctor takes it as a compliment.

IIRC there is a two line bus running underneath the layout, frogs are wired but relied on BluePoint switch controls which also flopped power for the frogs. Hopefully they went with the layout which should make it easy. All the mainline and branch switches were Atlas 10's, curves are superelevated. The sub-roadbed is HO, with N on top to both add depth, and keeping a prototypical mainline profile when additional scenery was added. Grey ballast on the main is S&S which I do not think can be acquired anymore, Scenic Express is the closest substitute but not exact (even though they were getting the Penn/Eastern ballast originally from S&S). Black ballast is Highball.

Again if memory serves the line running between the station and sidings is completely isolated from the rest of the trackage to facilitate a DPDT switch to allow programming of DCC equipped items without having to 0-5-0 to the mainline and vice versa. Run it in, flip the switch, program, flip the switch and head back out to the main.

Pretty cool that it still lives on. Look forward to seeing the progress.

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Re: Proto-lanced Pennsy: Allegheny Division, Gallitzin, PA
« Reply #221 on: January 03, 2017, 05:28:49 PM »
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Hey I took the same plan. I even did it in Z scale once
https://goo.gl/photos/5dSDdodpu5cSyePb8
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Re: Proto-lanced Pennsy: Allegheny Division, Gallitzin, PA
« Reply #222 on: January 03, 2017, 06:20:31 PM »
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In spite of my reservations about the future of my version of that plan, it really is a great little plan.  The more I think about it the more I'm convinced my real hangup is that over the last decade my roster has grown to where the little JD and its appended yard can't support all the cars and trains I want to run.  My coal drags are such that my M1s are essentially chasing their own cabins.

That's no fault of the plan...that's a fault of my use thereof.
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Re: Proto-lanced Pennsy: Allegheny Division, Gallitzin, PA
« Reply #223 on: January 03, 2017, 08:17:24 PM »
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Quote from: Chris333 on January 03, 2017, 05:28:49 PM
Hey I took the same plan. I even did it in Z scale once
https://goo.gl/photos/5dSDdodpu5cSyePb8

Oh now you state you took it too :D

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Re: Proto-lanced Pennsy: Allegheny Division, Gallitzin, PA
« Reply #224 on: January 04, 2017, 01:03:35 AM »
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