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Re: Cisco Bridges: a new layout concept
« Reply #840 on: December 31, 2017, 08:25:46 AM »
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Thanks! I know what you mean about the water but that will have to be a video effect!  I still need to work on lighting but I found some of the scenes with the intense spotlighting turned out to be visually effective.  I have found video capture much more challenging than still photography, but my new phone and a $3 ebay mini-tripod really get you into places on the layout the SLR dare not.

I have used Windows Movie Maker for this video, a default package that comes with Win7. It is easy to use, but quite limited in some key ways.  The audio transitions are clunky and you can't mix audio tracks, so it is either train or water sounds.  I need to be able to mix the river and train noises to get the right atmosphere.  I've had the same experience with the default Ipad iMovie app.

Yesterday I downloaded the open source package Openshot (https://www.openshot.org/) and it looks very promising to improve my efforts.  I will be travelling for a few weeks and this will give me time to experiment a bit.

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Re: Cisco Bridges: a new layout concept
« Reply #841 on: December 31, 2017, 08:37:29 AM »
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Those zoom shots are stellar :o that is some excellent work there, the bridge everything. Definitely displays the advantages of N in capturing the look of the prototype from the trains to the scenery 8)

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Re: Cisco Bridges: a new layout concept
« Reply #842 on: December 31, 2017, 01:48:42 PM »
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...and a $3 ebay mini-tripod really get you into places on the layout the SLR dare not.

Do you have a link?

Scottl

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Re: Cisco Bridges: a new layout concept
« Reply #843 on: December 31, 2017, 02:10:34 PM »
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I've had it for a few years, the price seems to have dropped!  The quality is meh, but it will secure the phone in almost any location.  The mount can also be adapted to a normal camera tripod as well, which is how a lot of the video was shot.

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Universal-Octopus-Stand-Tripod-Mount-Holder-for-iPhone-Samsung-Cell-Phone-Camera/401382333447?hash=item5d74405c07:g:qaQAAOSwai1Z6ayN

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Re: Cisco Bridges: a new layout concept
« Reply #844 on: February 19, 2018, 01:50:28 PM »
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More modelling in the past two days than in the past two months...

Working on finishing projects on my workbench.  Some freight cars that needed decals and modernizing, and a few details for the MOW landing.  This has turned out to be my favorite spot on the layout- not bad considering it was an afterthought!

It takes a surprising amount of detail to make a scene like this work.  A few firsts for me too, including working with figures. 

2018-02-19 13.39.50 by Scott L, on Flickr

2018-02-19 13.37.27 by Scott L, on Flickr


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Re: Cisco Bridges: a new layout concept
« Reply #845 on: February 19, 2018, 02:02:50 PM »
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Wow - great looking scene!

Cheers!
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Re: Cisco Bridges: a new layout concept
« Reply #846 on: February 19, 2018, 03:02:23 PM »
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+1  :)
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Re: Cisco Bridges: a new layout concept
« Reply #847 on: February 19, 2018, 04:01:31 PM »
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Those pickups are way too clean.
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Re: Cisco Bridges: a new layout concept
« Reply #848 on: February 19, 2018, 04:16:23 PM »
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True, they need a good coat of dust.  I want a diesel tank in the bed of the blue truck for the Bobcat as well.  Details, details...

I'm now working on some Showcase Miniatures MOW kits to finish the scene.  They are really fun and easy to build- most of the work is staging the painting of the different parts.  The entire scene was contrived to park the MOW models, but has taken on a life of its own. :D

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Re: Cisco Bridges: a new layout concept
« Reply #849 on: February 19, 2018, 04:57:35 PM »
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Very cool!  But I'd like to know how those pick-ups got there - especially with a low-boy trailer in tow.   :trollface:

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Re: Cisco Bridges: a new layout concept
« Reply #850 on: February 19, 2018, 05:08:29 PM »
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The access road...  :trollface:

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Re: Cisco Bridges: a new layout concept
« Reply #851 on: March 11, 2018, 05:48:36 PM »
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It is sadly time to write the eulogy for this layout.  I've been in a funk for longer than I can remember, and I have probably spent less than 30 hours in the layout room in the past six months, and less than 1 hour operating.  It is hard to let go, but I must.  On the plus side, after starting in the autumn of 2012, I accomplished a lot and I think I am a better modeler for it:

1.  I took on the challenge of a complex scratch build.  I learned a lot from that process, especially planning and patience.
2.  My scenery work definitely moved up a few notches on my own personal scale.  Even the improvement from the Cisco to Skoonka scenes is notable to my eye.  When I look back at my prior efforts, the improvement is especially clear.
3.  I actually built it to operate and stage trains, with motorized turnouts, DCC control, proper frog powering, and a host of details I had not previously attained.
4.  I managed to actually almost finish the scenery.  There are probably a few hours to finish the backdrop, add a few trees and some minor details.  The fascia is complete, the layout looks good, and for the most part, I am happy with it.  The Cisco scene, even though it still needs lots of trees, is something that I really feel like I was able to make as realistic as possible. 
5.  I've narrowed my modelling interests enough to have a clear sense of what the trains should look like, and I have spent some of my time finishing rolling stock to that end.  I have a long ways to go with this, but my motivation for this is now limited given that don't see a future for the layout.
6.  Building the layout gave me the means to connect and make friends with a really large number of other modelers from all over the world.  Everyone was encouraging and happy to share and for me, made this hobby so much more compelling than it was when I was alone in the basement.

So, what is next?  I don't know.  The On30 bug is hits on occasion, but I have limited space and I don't know if it will be satisfying in the near term.  I'll dabble, no doubt.

However, I doubt I am done with n scale, but I'm looking for a path forward, something that fits in my space and gives me the motivation for the build.  I found these attached photos from 2007, from my early days in n scale, that got me thinking again about a new layout.  These are from my first "big" layout, a three-deck depiction of Minturn to Tennessee Pass in Colorado with the Rio Grande.  It somehow fit into my space (less than I use now, I still was under the illusion in those days the room was a home office :) ) I had a lot of Rio Grande gear in those days, but I scared myself off from finishing the layout after building the basic bench work you see in the images.  I lost the file for the design, but the elements are still in my head and there is something about this configuration that I am still interested in.  I won't return to the Rio Grande, but I may leave CN behind.  We'll see.

Now I need to finish a few scenery items, take a lot of pictures, and figure out what to do with the bridge.

Thanks for following along.  I can't believe this thread has almost 67 000 views! 





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Re: Cisco Bridges: a new layout concept
« Reply #852 on: March 11, 2018, 07:48:39 PM »
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Sorry to hear this Scott, but I know it's been on your mind for some time.

Your scene at Cisco is just amazing and you should feel very proud with what you accomplished. Have you thought about donating it to a museum or information center? I know there's a small N scale depiction of the spiral tunnels at Field and your scene is about 100% better than that!

Thanks for sharing your journey with us. It's been incredible to watch.
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Re: Cisco Bridges: a new layout concept
« Reply #853 on: March 11, 2018, 07:50:42 PM »
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Still digesting the news, Scott. Your layout has been an inspiration.

I fully understand. If after a while you haven't settled on a game plan but feel the scenery itch, you know you have a standing reservation at the GC&W Old Model Railroader's Retreat and Spa in beautiful southern Illinois. :D
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Re: Cisco Bridges: a new layout concept
« Reply #854 on: March 11, 2018, 08:05:29 PM »
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@Scottl - you sir have done us all a great service with this layout. And for that we thank you deeply. It’s never easy to see modeling you respect to in the dumpster - but if we’ve learned anything around her the last six months or so it’s that you have to model what interests you.

Good luck in dismantling. I too eagerly await your next decision.
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