Author Topic: Alclad2 - "Stainless Steel" Passenger Train at Suncoast Model Railroader's Club  (Read 3360 times)

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FP45Tony

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Hello Crew,

Back in May I visited the Suncoast Model Railroad Club and brought over samples of HO passenger cars that I metalized with Alclad2 in various finishes. Great group of welcoming, friendly modelers.  My wife and I took over 40 photos.  My apologies since the photo quality isn't outstanding as they were taken with an Apple Tablet.  Picks up florescent lighting rather oddly.  My reliable camera's batteries went "kaputz" earlier (talk about timing!).

The members present understood that I was a volunteer tester for Alclad2 and that Tony Hipp is in the process of gathering feedback from passenger train modelers before releasing the new easy-to-use formulas onto the market.  I requested that the group be blunt about the finishes.  My wife also recorded the verbal comments from the club's membership.  The critiques were positive and constructive; especially from the club's president, who is knowledgeable about prototype passenger equipment and operations.  I forwarded the responses from the group to Tony.  His idea is to keep this as simple and user friendly as possible. 

Although there are variables in real life, for this there are 4 BASIC categories:   

A.  New/Restored Appearance:  Excellent condition. 1 to 5 years average age.  High Reflectivity.  Dark SS tone.

B. Moderate Age/Wear Appearance:  Very Good/ Well Maintained Condition.  5 to 15 year average age range; Good to Moderate Reflectivity.   Medium to Dark SS tone.

C. Aged Appearance:  Generally clean; but worn SS surface that has lightened in color.  Moderate Reflectivity.  Light SS tone.   

D. Neglected Appearance:  Faded surface; Low SS reflectivity.   Light SS tone. 

I have Categories A thru C represented.  There is much more detail but that's putting it simply.
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The Apple Tablet has no flash, so florescent lighting can cast some odd effects.

This "Riv" coach was donated to the Club.  I refinished it into Category B:


Interestingly, the units I had refinished in Category B were the most liked.  I based that finish on several photos from rail photographer/modeler Stan Jackowski and Jason Shron of Rapido, both who very graciously allowed me to use their photos as reference, as well as my research into #7 and #8 prototype reflective stainless steel finishes. Here is a comparison between an SCL prototype photographed by Stan and the Category B coach (outdoor photo) I refinished for the club:



These two Riv units are Category C while the Riv coach and Walthers diner are in Categories B & A, respectively:


Contrasts:  Rivarossi Diner: Category C  .......................... Rivarossi Coach:  Category B


Shots of the SCL streamliner headed by ex-ACL E6A "race horse" #502.


Here are a couple of shots with one of Stan Jackowski's beautiful El Capitan units parked next to the SCL train, then coupled on to the train's diner.


There are more photos but I plan on using my camera for better photos next time.   I did not weather the bodies as my intent was to show the actual finishes.

Please keep in mind that this is not intended to compete with Walthers and Rapido, but rather to complement them as an option for modelers wanting to build up their own "Steel Fleets".  The intent is to bring passenger car modeling to a higher, more realistic and enjoyable level.   

Please remember that SS finishes vary on prototypes, even within the same manufacturer.  It's OK to run multiple finishes within the same train, but the choice is always yours.  Also remember that SS finishes vary on prototypes, even within the same manufacturer. Cool factor is that you choose your finish.

Here's a nice example from David Graham.  Look at the two Budds:


----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I owe a lot of "Thank Yous" to the Suncoast Model Railroader's Club's membership and president, Jim Langston, for willing to help out in this and for allowing me to display the units on the club's beautiful layout.  Super group of guys and Thanks again to Stan Jackowski and Jason Shron.  Also to the Tampa Bay Railroad Prototype Modeler's Group for their input during their last gathering.

 
   
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FP45Tony

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A few more shots:

 

Philip H

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Nice work.  And nice to see Suncoast is still running.  When I left that part of Florida in 2001/02 to go to Seattle, the club was having leadership challenges.  Great layout though.
Philip H.
Chief Everything Officer
Baton Rouge Southern RR - Mount Rainier Division.


FP45Tony

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Hello Phillip,

Thank you.  I've been getting more emails regarding Alclad so I've been sharing my research with fellow modelers online.

I wonder if we ever met?  I used to hang out at Happy Hobo Trains back then (saddening that it's gone now).  The SMRR Club has come a long way since the early 2000s.  The HO layout has been expanded, it's completely DCC, a good portion of trackage was replaced, improved wiring, and now their are "Operations" sessions with prototype style dispatching.   The N-scale layout has also undergone changes and is a striking beauty of a railroad as well.   Check it out on your next visit to the Tampa Bay area.  :)


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Tony,
I was a St. Pete/Clearwater denizen, so never actually made it to Happy Hobo. Spent occasional time at H&R, but mostly hung out at Trains & Treasures (This is Tom) in Clearwater (both of their locations).  There was also a store down in Sarasota I used to hit about twice a year when I'd do the family thing and go check on my grandparents gravesites.

Now back to the allclad portion of our programming.
Philip H.
Chief Everything Officer
Baton Rouge Southern RR - Mount Rainier Division.


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Suggestion: 

DO NOT use Dullcote to seal decals as your metalized finish may appear too dull.   Use Clear coat for sealing! I prefer the Alclad clears because they're specifically designed for Alclad (no thinning is required, flow out is excellent, and they dry/cure very quickly). I was skeptical at first until I tried them.

However, if you are in a pinch, Testor's Acryl and Polly Scale gloss and semi-gloss clears will work.