50% price increase on Shapeways FUD

[Dave Schneider]

Hey Jason,

Are you getting any closer to pulling the trigger on your H10-44?

Best wishes, Dave

[bbussey]

Little Joe next, Comrade?

You may see that appear out of Schaumburg if all the cards fall right.

[Hyperion]

I got a bus I ordered along with the auto frames (no sign of those) early last week.  It was okay.  The resolution of the detail was great, but the model had an overall grainy texture, as if it was in desperate need of a good wet sanding.  And that may be all it takes (but would be difficult given the general flexibility of the parts and tiny detail), but there's no way you could simply paint right over the surface.

[bbussey]

Well that's a little disappointing to hear, but I'll wait until I have parts in hand to see if there is a path forward.

[DKS]

Here's a Z Scale taconite ore care designed by Stony Smith (http://www.shapeways.com/model/245517/taconite_ore_car_ii___z_scale.html?gid=sg4375).

Now, granted, it's not dead smooth; you can see the rastering, which is more obvious under macro photography, but I think much of it would go away after painting.

BTW, note the odd yellow color, which has increased over time since I received it, so I wonder how much more yellowing I can expect as time goes on.

















Some general notes... the material warps on large thin, flat areas, and also on parts with small cross-sections, such as the ladders. It's quite delicate--I ordered three cars, and the ladders were broken on all three. The one in the pics was the best of the bunch (Stony explained that his original design had some flaws that increased the likelihood of breakage). There are some other design issues with this car, but that's for a different topic.

I took the above images under lighting conditions to exaggerate the surface texture. Also bear in mind that it's Z Scale. It's still a long way away from the quality of injection molding, but it's also light-years ahead of what we had not long ago (anyone remember MakeMyModel?).

[Bob Bufkin]

Gee, I'm getting popular, ain't I!

[Chris333]

My box came today. Out of 15 one was broke, but I think it was the packaging. They just pile them up in tissue paper. I just sprayed one with plain old flat black in a can.



On a quarter:



Next to a Nn3 20' car:

[bbussey]

Maybe a work-around is to design the FUD specifically as a master for casting, make polyurethane castings that can be carefully sanded smooth, and then make second generation castings from those.

[wcfn100]

Hey Jason,

Are you getting any closer to pulling the trigger on your H10-44?

Best wishes, Dave

I have to take a look at the file.  I made that over three years ago so I probably did a lot of things wrong.  Another thing is that I didn't have any drawings so I don't really know how well it measures out.  If someone can get drawings, I can certainly put on the pile of things to do as I'd love to have one (I still can't believe FVM did the GP60 over this  :).  The body and cab are pretty simple to draw except for the top of the nose. I don't have any experience yet with making the walkways. 

Jason

[Dave Schneider]

I have to take a look at the file.  I made that over three years ago so I probably did a lot of things wrong.  Another thing is that I didn't have any drawings so I don't really know how well it measures out.  If someone can get drawings, I can certainly put on the pile of things to do as I'd love to have one (I still can't believe FVM did the GP60 over this  :).  The body and cab are pretty simple to draw except for the top of the nose. I don't have any experience yet with making the walkways. 

Jason

Thanks for the update. I have looked for FM H10-44 and H12-44 drawings and have come up empty. The best I could find were some painting diagrams. The lack of drawings are kinda amazing when you consider that SDL-39 has been published 3 or 4 times (no offense, I like it but....). Maybe this is why nobody has made the FM model yet? 

Best wishes, Dave

[SkipGear]

I would like to make a suggestion to the guys trying this out. Instead of designing the car standing upright, lay it on it's side so that the flat side is in the plane of a layer and it should theoretically not show the raster lines (layers) as they are built. The side would be comprised of only one layer.

[sirenwerks]

Thanks for the update. I have looked for FM H10-44 and H12-44 drawings and have come up empty. The best I could find were some painting diagrams. The lack of drawings are kinda amazing when you consider that SDL-39 has been published 3 or 4 times (no offense, I like it but....). Maybe this is why nobody has made the FM model yet? 

Well Wally did in it HO, so there's gotta be plans floating somewhere.

[choochin3]

Please pardon my ignorance,but what is FUD?

[Chris333]

Frosted Ultra Detail the latest material that Shapeways offers. It is the $hit because the resolution is .3mm pretty much the best (affordable) out there now.

[Hyperion]

Here's a Z Scale taconite ore care designed by Stony Smith (http://www.shapeways.com/model/245517/taconite_ore_car_ii___z_scale.html?gid=sg4375).

Your car is significantly smoother than the bus that I've got.  I'd say mine the 'bumpiness' or 'rastering' is at least double in depth as what you've got there.  Mine looks and feels exactly like the orange peel you get when you spray ModelFlex paint from too far away from your subject.

I would imagine, not having much knowledge of how these are created, that the device used to create the item plays more of a role when it comes to the result of the general smoothness than the material itself.