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What make of boxcar is this?
« on: June 17, 2011, 04:16:59 PM »
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I'm not the best at picking out specific boxcars, but as far as I can tell it looks like an FMC 5347 cuft.
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2420821

This is the closest thing I've seen so far but the ends are different.
For my purpose, it's close enough,
http://www.modeltrainstuff.com/PhotoDetails.asp?ShowDESC=N&ProductCode=FVM-80261
but am curious if there is anything closer.

Thanks,
Allen...
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Re: What make of boxcar is this?
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2011, 04:21:03 PM »
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To my eye they are the same . . .
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Re: What make of boxcar is this?
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2011, 04:27:39 PM »
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Pacific Car & Foundry.

Rib arrangement is similar to the FMC but the FMC has the underframe and bolsters bolted too the side sill (very distinctive bolt patterns especially at the bolster above the truck), very slightly difference side sill notch, and I've never seen an FMC with the stamped ends like that.

PC&F cars with non-terminating ends similar to the FMC model also exist and can be pretty hard to tell apart from an FMC unless you know the really tiny subtle features.
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Re: What make of boxcar is this?
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2011, 05:08:30 PM »
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Quote from: Philip H on June 17, 2011, 04:21:03 PM
To my eye they are the same . . .

The car ends are completely different.
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Re: What make of boxcar is this?
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2011, 05:20:24 PM »
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Quote from: Kisatchie on June 17, 2011, 05:08:30 PM
The car ends are completely different.

That's what I noticed.  Other than that, it's pretty close to an FMC.

I just dug this up:
http://fcix.info/ref_sheets/ref004_pcf.pdf

It didn't really match anything on here.  Close but not really.

I suppose the way some of the Roads have bastardized some of their locos, I suppose the same thing can be done with the cars.  Or maybe they Frankenstein'ed them together from wrecks or leftovers as well.

So what I'm hearing is the FVM FMC 5347 should be close enough for the three foot rule?

I think I just found my next project.....

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Re: What make of boxcar is this?
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2011, 08:23:34 PM »
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Dave Casdorph said they are PC&F cars that were later converted to plug doors.

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Re: What make of boxcar is this?
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2011, 08:58:07 PM »
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Quote from: PGBowler2 on June 17, 2011, 08:23:34 PM
Dave Casdorph said they are PC&F cars that were later converted to plug doors.

Well I don't know who Dave is, but if he says that's what they are, then that is what they are! ;D ;D ;D

But that does explain some of the other cars.  The first picture that I posted says "As delivered" in the caption and the biggest share of the others have the plug doors like this one:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=963471

Here is the first one again for comparison, if anyone cares besides me ::):
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2420821

As always, thanks for the help and insight with the car.
Allen...
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