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Re: WM Western Lines Engineering Report
« Reply #585 on: April 04, 2012, 04:38:46 PM »
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Here ya go... Something along these lines...


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Re: WM Western Lines Engineering Report
« Reply #586 on: April 04, 2012, 04:46:50 PM »
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Even bettererer.

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Re: WM Western Lines Engineering Report
« Reply #587 on: April 04, 2012, 04:46:53 PM »
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better
"I have a train full of basements"

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Re: WM Western Lines Engineering Report
« Reply #588 on: April 04, 2012, 05:02:41 PM »
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Be cool to pop a mirror in there at the end of the street to extend it.

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Re: WM Western Lines Engineering Report
« Reply #589 on: April 04, 2012, 05:05:36 PM »
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And at the end of the overpass as well
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Re: WM Western Lines Engineering Report
« Reply #590 on: April 04, 2012, 05:48:21 PM »
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Re: WM Western Lines Engineering Report
« Reply #591 on: April 04, 2012, 07:27:50 PM »
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Works for me.  Good job, Lord Zox and Lee!  Much better solution.

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Re: WM Western Lines Engineering Report
« Reply #592 on: April 04, 2012, 09:39:43 PM »
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Lee,

I think the left-hand building and associated catwalk are an excellent solution. And I'll second DKS's suggestion to try a mirror under the catwalk--it looks like the angle is such that it'll extend the scene without being obvious.

(At least, it'll be less obvious than faux-painting a road on the wall, like I tried to do in my photo-edit.) :)
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Re: WM Western Lines Engineering Report
« Reply #593 on: April 04, 2012, 10:17:07 PM »
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You know how I feel about the puff balls :-)

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Re: WM Western Lines Engineering Report
« Reply #594 on: April 04, 2012, 10:33:06 PM »
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I'm liking it man. The end of the puffballs looks a bit harsh to me though; might could string some poly fibre out thinly to better aid the transition. Otherwise, I like how it pulls both decks together
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Re: WM Western Lines Engineering Report
« Reply #595 on: April 05, 2012, 12:15:48 AM »
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Don't worry, Ed.  I've got something special planned to commemorate your participation in this extravaganza...

So here's tonight's progress....


Note the addition of the parapet wall per Zox's recommendation, and the extension of the puff matt (to flat to be puff balls, really...) over to the left, and of course, the new building to house the Laurel Star Apologist newspaper.  (10 points to anyone who can recall the obscure reference there...)  I haven't added the catwalk yet, and I'm not 100% sure that I will.  I'm pondering a row of distant photo buildings that would be visible farther up the road there.  We'll see.

After I took this first shot, I immediately saw the problem with the background painted mountain not blending properly with the 3-D stuff.  Here's how I fixed that...



I probably have to do a little more color adjustment, but that will come as I blend it around to the left.  Note that the future roof of the newspaper building will obscure the lower bit, and I may add some photo buildings to the skyboard to camouflage the curved cut in the roof.

That solved, I went hunting for some more photo angles.  Please pardon the construction debris apparent in many of the shots.



Here you can see the photo extension is eliminated.  That experiment confirmed my prejudice that 3D is 3D and 2D isn't, and never the twain should meet.  This removes the conundrum of having exactly one angle from which you can get a cool shot, and everything else (especially standing there operating a train) looks like crap.  This way, no matter how you look at it it looks like crap. :P



Same angle, a little further back.



This view gives me a little of that "Brick Canyon" effect.  This is where the space compromise related to modeling the depot full size and trying to shoehorn in a few more industrial tracks is most evident.  I wish I had planned for about 3 or 4 inches of "air" to let the back of the station appear more as it does in nature.  I'm not sweating it too hard, though.  This is never going to be a primary viewing angle, and I'm planning to make a module that can travel with the station for folks who wish to get the "full Monty" view from the back.  (Dear God!  It could even be an N track Module!!)



This will be the most likely photo angle, which masks the impossibly narrow alley to the station basement.  Gyads, I need to do some vacuuming!!



Another view to confirm the blend of colors from the painting to the 3-D, and also to confirm that the building looks better without the 2-D fake wall there.



A final look right down the street.  This will be where the catwalk concept or the background buildings on the flat will stand or fail. 

For the newspaper building, I'm planning a dark brick color, which will help it recede into the scene, allowing the station its rightful spot as the centerpiece of Cumberland.

Oh, by the way, the chunk of foam there to the right of the station will be mudded over shortly, and will await the attentions of the Coonass Grass Master...  There will be a little lawn area and a couple of trees per the prototype.

So, thanks for all the input thus far, I think it's really helping to shape up the scene both in person and in photos.  Any body gots any more thoughts?

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Re: WM Western Lines Engineering Report
« Reply #596 on: April 05, 2012, 01:14:05 AM »
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Wasn't the Laurel Star Apologist the Shinbone newspaper in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance?

"No drinking when voting! Why, that's carrying democracy too far!"

Brilliant film (if I've got it right).
If not, it should be  :ashat:

The second building will definitely help scene.
I really dig those brick canyon POVs.
And if the bar's still closed and we're still voting, then I vote for the enclosed catwalk.
Provides a "natural" 3D frame through which the road to exit.
(Though if you could animate a bit swirling time warp like in The Final Countdown... wow)
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Re: WM Western Lines Engineering Report
« Reply #597 on: April 05, 2012, 08:10:27 AM »
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Nope...  The Star Apologist was the newspaper for which "Wordsmith" wrote in a comic strip by the same name back in the 70's.  It was pretty funny, and I always thought that was a great name for a mediocre newspaper.  One stand out strip had the first panel with Tip O'Neill completing the day's business in Congress, banging the gavel and declaring "Recess!"  The next panel naturally had all the congress critters out in the play yard on the jungle gym. 

The motto of the paper, at least as it will appear on my layout, is "That's News to Us!"

Enough mass comm major jokes...

Yes, I agree, the only thing better than a catwalk across the street would be the swirling entrance to the Time Tunnel... maybe with some fog...

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Re: WM Western Lines Engineering Report
« Reply #598 on: April 05, 2012, 10:17:05 AM »
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The motto of the paper, at least as it will appear on my layout, is "That's News to Us!"

Lee

I hate to admit it, but the promotional geniuses at a daily newspaper I worked at in the '90s had T-shirts printed up with the message, "If it happens in (our city), it's news to us!"

Just another reason why I say the newspaper industry didn't die. It committed suicide.

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Re: WM Western Lines Engineering Report
« Reply #599 on: April 05, 2012, 10:55:30 AM »
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Lee, that scene is really taking shape and the blob has been tamed! 

I second the recommendation to place a mirror under the pedestrian overpass between the buildings.  That will extend the street nicely!

Eric