Athearn September - Nothing earth shattering

[asarge]

I would think we could say the same things about Broccoli!

[3rdrail]

Back to Athearn - it sent out a newsletter this afternoon with artist's renderings of the new color schemes. I do not recall ever seeing a PRR hopper lettered like the ones Atlas has issued.  >

Makes me wonder about the rest...the VGN looks about right though, but I thought their hoppers were smaller 2 bays.

[Mark5]

Makes me wonder about the rest...the VGN looks about right though, but I thought their hoppers were smaller 2 bays.

VGN had a sizable fleet of flat end 70 ton ribbed side 3 bays (along with a bunch of 2 Bays). For Rivet counters, the Athearn model is close, but not correct.

1984:
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/vgn/vgn4775ads.jpg

I bought some from the earlier release - the lettering is well researched, as was the lettering on the merger inherited N&W releases.

[FrankCampagna]

Back to Athearn - it sent out a newsletter this afternoon with artist's renderings of the new color schemes. I do not recall ever seeing a PRR hopper lettered like the ones Atlas has issued.  Angry

Could this be what they were aiming for?

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/prr/prr268361ajs.jpg

Frank

[Mark5]

Dammit! Sometimes the Athearn emails reach other times not ...  :

I see they finally revived this tooling:



But no N&W!!!!  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

[Ed Kapuscinski]

Now they're just messing with you.

[Dave V]

That's not just a "foobie" for Pennsy...  that hopper is bogus.  No better than those bay-window Pennsy cabins you can still find.

I wonder if doubling the number of ribs would make it more foobie than bogus...

...naaaaah.  It's too short.

But that D&H NACC 50' box is hot.  I've seen them in tons of photos at the Curve in the 70s.

Oh, and that Pennsy TrucTrain 40' trailer and tractor looks sweet!!!

[David Leonard]

I do not recall ever seeing a PRR hopper lettered like the ones Atlas has issued.

A "foobie" it is. On page 81 of Teichmoeller's PRR hopper book there's a pair of photos of class H35's painted the way Athearn has illustrated. Those are 3 bay hoppers, but they don't match the Athearn tooling, so for some of us the point is moot. Teichmoeller further remarks that the MDC car doesn't match anything he is aware that the Pennsy actually had, and in fact, the Athearn lettering has them as H38's, a class which maybe never even existed.

[Mark5]

Back to Athearn - it sent out a newsletter this afternoon with artist's renderings of the new color schemes. I do not recall ever seeing a PRR hopper lettered like the ones Atlas has issued.  Angry

Could this be what they were aiming for?

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/prr/prr268361ajs.jpg

Frank

The number series matches the H35, so yeah that's what the number should be.

[David Leonard]

I was mistaken about the Athearn lettering. Further enlargement of the pdf shows the Pennsy cars as H36's, so at least they have them as an actual class. Some H36's were lettered the same way, but they had 15 panels.

[Mark5]

Teichmoeller further remarks that the MDC car doesn't match anything he is aware that the Pennsy actually had,

I shoot for close, but I agree the MDC/Ath car is not even close.

The only Athearn hopper that is close to anything N&W had is the 70 offset side triple, which matches up to a couple of small classes of NKP hoppers that N&W inherited in the 1964 merger. However, those were a very small percentage of the N&W fleet.

On the other hand, nearly 100% of all N&W open hoppers built from the mid 1930s through the early 1960s had peaked ends (only exception was 1,000 wartime H4 hoppers). The Athearn peaked end triple is the only one ever made in N scale, so it would serve N&W modelers well as a "close enough" model.

Mark

[CVSNE]

Teichmoeller further remarks that the MDC car doesn't match anything he is aware that the Pennsy actually had,

I shoot for close, but I agree the MDC/Ath car is not even close.

The only Athearn hopper that is close to anything N&W had is the 70 offset side triple, which matches up to a couple of small classes of NKP hoppers that N&W inherited in the 1964 merger. However, those were a very small percentage of the N&W fleet.

On the other hand, nearly 100% of all N&W open hoppers built from the mid 1930s through the early 1960s had peaked ends (only exception was 1,000 wartime H4 hoppers). The Athearn peaked end triple is the only one ever made in N scale, so it would serve N&W modelers well as a "close enough" model.

Mark

There was a meeting among all the major manufacturers in the basement of a meat shop in Chicago 3 or 4 years ago . . . all the "families" were represented . . . they discussed UP licensing issues . . . and all agreed to never, ever, letter a hopper for N&W . . .  ;D

Seriously, it makes ZERO sense to me why Athearn doesn't letter the car N&W . . . Pennsy I get (even it was a third tier roadname

N&W should be a no-brainer on that car.

Marty

[3rdrail]

Great, not only does Marty call me "John" in another post when my name is in the URL at the bottom of my signature, but now he again calls my favorite road and former employer a "third tier roadname". Boo, hiss!!! 

[CVSNE]

Great, not only does Marty call me "John" in another post when my name is in the URL at the bottom of my signature, but now he again calls my favorite road and former employer a "third tier roadname". Boo, hiss!!! 

Sorry for calling you John, Gregg.  In my defense both you and John were helping me with the photo posting issues I was having  . . . as far as PRR being a third tier roadname . . . well, sometimes you gotta call 'em like you see 'em . . .

Be well,

Marty

[asarge]

Now Erie Western may have been a 3rd Tier or maybe 29th Tier roadname, but Pennsy? ???

Has anybody asked why N&W hasn't been done. Although I'm in Central of Georgia territory and those fans are fanatical. I can;t see Cof G being more popular than N&W, nor C&EI.