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ljudice

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N-scale Emergency Vehicle Light Bars
« on: January 25, 2023, 01:02:19 AM »
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@daniel_leavitt2000 Anyone know a source, I am coming up dry...

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Re: N-scale Emergency Vehicle Light Bars
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2023, 01:59:20 AM »
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Re: N-scale Emergency Vehicle Light Bars
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2023, 06:03:04 AM »
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Lou, what era are you modeling? The four big eras of emergency lighting are:
Rotary - until the late 80's single or twin lights.
Full rotary (mechanical) light bar - late 70's to early 90's. Oblong shaped cross section of the light bar.
Strobe - 90's to about 2005 with a rectangular cross section.
LED's - 2005+ comes in multiple sizes and shapes. Retrofit kids available for earlier light bars.

There are special types like the NYPD V pattern lights meant to increase perpendicular visibility.


Fire trucks tend to be slow to adopt new lighting as the trucks have a 10-20 year service life. Police cars usually last 3-5 years. Ambulances about 5-7.

Each type of light bar has a very unique flash effects that can frame an era.

Most types can be modeled using Richmond Controls as previously stated.
https://evandesigns.com/collections/circuits Has a few solutions as well.
https://miniatronics.com/collections/light-bars These guys have been around a while.
http://circuitron.com/ Have some lighting controls that date to the early 90's.

While these will work, I suggest using a stationary DCC decoder. NCE has one designed for lighting and had a broad range of effects. I believe the ESU function decoders have a totally programable table.

Making the light bars is pretty difficult. Even the smallest LED'S are too large to make a scale light bar, especially LED prototypes. I would bury the driver LED's in the roof of the model and make an appropriate looking light bar out of clear styrene or sprue. The top of the light bar should have metal foil to keep the light from shining directly up - LED and Strobe bars have an aluminum skin on top.

For rotary light bars... Your guess is as good as mine. I have not seen a good simulation of one in HO, nevermind N.
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Re: N-scale Emergency Vehicle Light Bars
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2023, 03:49:02 PM »
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I think River Point Station made a lightbar for their pickups that could be purchased separately, but I can't recall for sure.

Edit: Yes they did (do?)....

https://www.riverpointstation.com/pages/accessories_n/n37_5l01_00.php
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Re: N-scale Emergency Vehicle Light Bars
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2023, 09:18:07 PM »
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Thanks for the comprehensive ideas!

I am planning a lighted emergency vehicle scene, though initially it will be un-lit.   I found those RPS lightbars but have not found a place to buy any....

Its too bad Woodland Scenics doesn't do a modern fire/PD/EMS kit - I  know their issue is the IP/trade dress of the vehicles.

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Re: N-scale Emergency Vehicle Light Bars
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2023, 09:40:29 PM »
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I know it's not exactly what you're looking for, but I've had Drew at Huckleberry Custom LED do 3 of my fire engines and am very happy with them. 

https://drewho.wixsite.com/hrrcustomled

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Re: N-scale Emergency Vehicle Light Bars
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2023, 09:56:12 PM »
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I know it's not exactly what you're looking for, but I've had Drew at Huckleberry Custom LED do 3 of my fire engines and am very happy with them. 

https://drewho.wixsite.com/hrrcustomled

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Re: N-scale Emergency Vehicle Light Bars
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2023, 10:37:01 PM »
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Lou,

You might try: Lights4Models    https://lights4models.com/
or Iron Penguin Electronics.

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