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cgw

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Questions about the LEZ couplers
« on: July 26, 2022, 11:42:33 AM »
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About a year or 2 ago there was a lot of activity around these couplers in N scale on the rail wire. For the folks that transitioned to them how are they in performance and daily use.   Was it worth the effort to use them? Or were they just another rail wire activity trap for some.

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Re: Questions about the LEZ couplers
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2022, 01:03:18 PM »
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I find them quite worthwhile.  They are closer to scale, eliminate the slinky and a host of other issues, and are reliable and couple well enough for me.   I am finding that a dental pick makes a good uncoupling tool  (I cut off the trip pins).  They are not hard to install at all, relative to any other kind of body-mount coupler installation.

Ed

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Re: Questions about the LEZ couplers
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2022, 01:32:16 PM »
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I suppose I should chime in, as one of the major proponents of them.  I have been using them for a number of years now and they have stood the test of time for me in terms of reliability.  I'll just highlight the main pros and cons.

PROS:
+ Smaller than all other standard N scale couplers*, so closer to scale size.
+ Compatible with MTL, Accumate, McHenry, and Kato N scale couplers.  (But see the related con below.)
+ Single-piece shank with cast leaf springs, so no slinky effect.
+ The shank is very small in the vertical direction, so it is much easier to accommodate a lower ride height.
+ They never spontaneously uncouple, like some MTLs do when the slack runs in and out.

CONS:
− Only available direct from Lee English.  (And who knows for how long.)  Current price is ~$1.50/pr.
− There is no commercially available coupler pocket to house them.   In the early days I teamed up with Ed Nadolski to develop etched brass pockets, but I have since switched over to custom-designed 3-d printed pocket, which have been GREAT.  But none of these are easily available for purchase.  (Most of my mature 3-d designs are available through TinkerCAD, for home printing.)
− Owing to the narrow shank, the shank axis is sometimes bent relative to the coupler body.  This can cause some issues with perfect coupler height (I'm a stickler).  These bent parts can usually be straightened with a bit of a twist.
− They don't "kiss" couple with MTLs very well, and sometimes require the 0-5-0 to mate them, but they do stay mated.  (Sorry for the lewd metaphors.)  They also don't kiss couple with themselves very well (takes a bit of force), but that's never been much of an issue for me.

-gfh

*I was recently loaned some cars with MTL Tru-Scale couplers that were modified by @turbowhiz, to try out on my layout.  My initial (and very limited) testing of these so far has been very impressive.   I hope to have something to report on later this summer, but I'm currently focussed on getting the layout back in shape for ops, so not sure when that will be.


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Re: Questions about the LEZ couplers
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2022, 01:47:32 PM »
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I have a hard time aiming at the right place when I try to use a pick to uncouple standard MTLs, I seem to shove the couplers down instead of apart regardless of wiggle.  Wish MTL would come out with couplers that uncouple by moving a lever.
Moving coal the old way: https://youtu.be/RWJVt4r_pgc
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ednadolski

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Re: Questions about the LEZ couplers
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2022, 03:13:38 PM »
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They also don't kiss couple with themselves very well (takes a bit of force)

What I do is, take a moderate-sized hex head machine bolt (~ 3/8" dia. x 1 1/2") that I dip in plasti-dip and CA a small piece of 800 or so sandpaper to the top of the head, so it is (a) electrically insulated, and (b) won't easily slip along the rail head.  I set it on the rails behind the car that I want to couple to, just touching the coupler (a procedure which I call 'setting the car brake').  The bolt keeps the car from being pushed along when the loco tries to couple. It doesn't look too objectionable since I am watching the other end of the car when coupling anyway.  But at least I no longer need to digitally hold or push the car to get it to couple up with the LEZs  (FWIW, I don't know what Z-scalers do for coupling.)

That said, the N-Possible couplers by @turbowhiz don't need anything to hold the car in place in order to couple together.

Ed



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Re: Questions about the LEZ couplers
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2022, 02:35:50 AM »
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CONS:
− Only available direct from Lee English.  (And who knows for how long.)  Current price is ~$1.50/pr.

Just an FYI, I emailed Lee in Jan 2021 and the price was $1.90/pr.  If your price is more recent then they have gone down in cost.

Quote from: Lee English
Z Coupler (only)   $1.90 per pair  minimum order 50 pair

Pay by Check or Money order only
Made out to Lee English

The couplers are not a Bowser product.

No shipping charge if USA address.
Shipping by first class mail with tracking

Thank you
    Lee English

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Re: Questions about the LEZ couplers
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2022, 01:21:20 PM »
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Thx John.  I should have checked before I posted.  My number was old: the price definitely has not gone down.  They are still available though.