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Cajonpassfan

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Re: Placement of (BD20) detectors
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2019, 04:04:37 PM »
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Also in case it's not obvious, you'll probably end up cutting your existing DCC bus into pieces for each block, and you'll run a new main bus that branches off to run through the detectors at each group and power the cut up pieces of the old bus wires.  Terminal blocks with six sets of terminals might come in handy.

Thanks for your thoughts. It helps me think things through.
Well, what I’ve done is kept the buss uninterrupted, but branched off a feed for each detected block, looped it through the BD20 detector and then split the feed into multiple branches to be soldered to each piece of rail within the block. I like  to have hardwired connections and not rely on joiners. Same idea though.

As to the turnouts and crossovers, there were no “control points” with occupancy detection, but if a trailing point turnout was unlocked and presumably (but not necessarily) manually lined into reverse position, the first signal up the line would go red as if the block with the switch were occupied and related signals ahead of it would act accordingly (yellow or red over yellow). 

Sidings, also only signaled in the direction of traffic only had pot signals, normally dark but going red when triggered by a train entering the siding. What’s interesting, to me, anyway, is that in order for the train to leave the siding, the head end brakeman would walk up to the switch after the last overtaking train cleared, unlock it (triggering the mainline signal red aspect) and then had to wait for five minutes before the pot changed from red to yellow (there were no greens). This was necessary to make sure another train on the main wouldn’t get a sudden red with no warning.

(In actuality, most heading-out switches were spring loaded and it was not necessary to line the switch back to normal after the caboose cleared. I’m still trying to understand how the timing mechanism worked).
Otto
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jagged ben

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Re: Placement of (BD20) detectors
« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2019, 11:39:54 PM »
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Got it.  Yes if you're doing this then you don't need to detect turnout sections separately.

Signalling is so interesting.  :)

Cajonpassfan

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Re: Placement of (BD20) detectors
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2019, 12:36:56 AM »
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Signalling is so interesting.  :)
Yes :D
And thanks for the link!
Otto
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Re: Placement of (BD20) detectors
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2019, 03:49:38 AM »
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A few years ago I took interest in block detection, and related to current detection I found this very informatieve site: https://www.jlcenterprises.net/pages/chapter-3 and https://www.jlcenterprises.net/pages/chapter-2-part-1
Based on their schematic for a functioning detector/activator circuit (meaning it allows activation of a high-current switch usefull for example for relays, signalling, feedback,..) I designed my own version of schematic and pcb. The Eagle files are attached oeps after trying it shows .sch and .brd files cannot be uploaded, I will try pdf (anyone knows how to upload Eagle files?); based on this I had a bunch of pcb's fabricated but not yet populated. However anyone interested may take these files and generated their gerbers from it for pcb fabrication (can be done for less than USD5 plus shipping for 5 boards 100x100 in China; on each board 3 pcb's can be fitted).
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Re: Placement of (BD20) detectors
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2019, 05:29:56 AM »
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The Eagle files are attached oeps after trying it shows .sch and .brd files cannot be uploaded, I will try pdf (anyone knows how to upload Eagle files?)

You can't - this forum does not support uploading that type of files.
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