Keystone Details is now officially online!

[Lemosteam]

Also I would like to thank everyone for the well wishes, compliments and criticisms.  (its all Ed's fault)...

[chicken45]

Keystone being the brand of the designer (me) developing product for PRR modelers and ahem, those whom do not model PRR.  Just kidding.

Keystone Customs is simply a place to house those designs within the same websaite that are not PRR Specific or generic in nature (can you say MUFF?).  Each page has a description of what it contains, do you not read man? 

And there is also a search mechanism on the main page:

(Attachment Link)

If "Keystone" is your brand, why is the website "keystone details?" Keystone Customs, to me, suggests custom PRR stuff because it literally says "KEYSTONE" right in the name. Nothing can suggest PRR stronger than the word "keystone." We already know you focus on PRR stuff because of the word keystone. I don't think Keystone Customs differentiates itself from Keystone Details (in the name) because the both effectively say the same thing: custom PRR details. Does that make sense? That is why I was confused, until you explained it to me. I think it's an answer to a question people aren't asking. You could rename the line to "Lemo's Customs by Keystone Details", or "Things only Josh cares about Customs."

This is the hill I'm dying on. LOL.

[powersteamguy1790]

John:

You've created a fantastic site. very well done.



Bob...........

[Lemosteam]

John:

You've created a fantastic site. very well done.



Bob...........

@chicke45  nya nya na nya na!   

Taco Bell & KFC all fall under the umbrella Pepsi brand but you have no issues with that.

To quote you, "I don't think Keystone Customs differentiates itself from Keystone Details (in the name) because the both effectively say the same thing: custom PRR details."  This is simply not true- none of the items on the PRR-Specific pages are custom at all- they represent STANDARD PRR designs for the Standard railroad of the World, by definition, "not custom"

In contrast, the Keystone Customs page represents custom Non-PRR designs (as the page states) sometimes designed for me that I want to share with others (muffs), sometimes for customers (vents, steps), and even non scale items like the speaker enclosures, a customer's idea but with permission to sell to others. 

It does not make sense to me to separate non-PRR designs into a separate brand (dual brand management) or a separate costly website (dual site management), just for the sake of your misconception of the word custom.

"Keystone" effectively ties all of the designs back to me as the designer of all of the parts.  I thought Keystone Customs more clever and less clunky than "Custom Designs by Keystone Details"

Let me know when you need help offering a brand or creating a website for trolls like you to P&M about something that does not affect you.   

[Lemosteam]

Oh and by the way, Thank you @powersteamguy1790 !

[chicken45]

I'm only responding so you don't misunderstand me. I just enjoy the debate!

@chicke45  nya nya na nya na!   

Taco Bell & KFC all fall under the umbrella Pepsi brand but you have no issues with that.

With Taco Bell and KFC, I know what I'm getting. If they were named Kentucky Taco Bell and Kentucky Fried Chicken, I feel like that describes the situation better.

@chicke45  nya nya na nya na!   
To quote you, "I don't think Keystone Customs differentiates itself from Keystone Details (in the name) because the both effectively say the same thing: custom PRR details."  This is simply not true- none of the items on the PRR-Specific pages are custom at all- they represent STANDARD PRR designs for the Standard railroad of the World, by definition, "not custom"

I know it isn't true. I'm saying the name Keystone automatically makes it PRR specific no matter what the intent. I understand your reasoning now, I could come out with a line of called Keystone Prophylactics and people will think PRR

It does not make sense to me to separate non-PRR designs into a separate brand (dual brand management) or a separate costly website (dual site management), just for the sake of your misconception of the word custom.

"Keystone" effectively ties all of the designs back to me as the designer of all of the parts.  I thought Keystone Customs more clever and less clunky than "Custom Designs by Keystone Details"

I agree. You don't need separate websites. I'm saying that the inconsistency is what is clearly affecting me LOL. 
As for trolling, that's what my layout engineering report is for!

All ball busting aside, it does look great, you make great, smart designs, and I'm happy you're here!

[peteski]

@chicke45  nya nya na nya na!   

Taco Bell & KFC all fall under the umbrella Pepsi brand but you have no issues with that.

TO continue trolling, check your facts @Lemosteam !
Taco Bell and KFC (and Pizza Hut and Wing Street) are all owned by Yum Brands 

Can't keep up with all the buyouts and mergers?    I wonder how long it will take for your venture to be taken over by some giant venture capital investment firm (Like Tom Mann's Railwire Enterprises). 

[Lemosteam]

TO continue trolling, check your facts @Lemosteam !
Taco Bell and KFC (and Pizza Hut and Wing Street) are all owned by Yum Brands 

Can't keep up with all the buyouts and mergers?    I wonder how long it will take for your venture to be taken over by some giant venture capital investment firm (Like Tom Mann's Railwire Enterprises). 

Ahahahahaha!  Ya got me!

So Yum Taco Bell, Yum KFC Yum Pizza Hut and Yum Wing Street are the sub brands eh?  LOL!

[peteski]

Ahahahahaha!  Ya got me!

So Yum Taco Bell, Yum KFC Yum Pizza Hut and Yum Wing Street are the sub brands eh?  LOL!

Sounds very yummy, doesn't it? 

[chicken45]

Let's talk about Darden, next!

[OldEastRR]

OK, I didn't connect "Custom" with "non-PRR" when looking at your website. In usual context, it means the producer is available to custom-make any reasonable design by a customer for an agreed-upon price. And I think instantly and absolutely equating "Keystone" as meaning only "Anything ever touched by the greatest railroad ever seen - the Pennsylvania Lines System!" is an indication of a severe perception problem, at least. 
Really, wouldn't "PRR Specific" and "Non-PRR Specific" be acceptable and easily deciphered labels for those categories? (Except for people with keystone word addiction  )

[Lemosteam]

Aaaand now you know.. All is forgiven!

[nickelplate759]

@OldEastRR They are listed under Keystone Customs, where non PRR designs are listed:

http://www.keystonedetails.com/keystone-customs/2016/9/8/n-scale-4pk-steps-for-atlasconcorrivarossi-heavyweight-passenger-cars

Oh my gosh, I have a photo credit there!  Never had a photo credit before.   I'm F-A-M-O-U-S!

well, maybe not...

[ Seriously, thanks for the recognition John.  Unnecessary but appreciated. ]


George