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Cajonpassfan

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Re: Santa fe whaleback tenders. I'm back to modeling!
« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2015, 11:33:26 PM »
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Update!
I still have some sanding to take care of to clean it up but it's coming together well! I'll finish the handrails on the oil tank and grabs on the forward corners after the last coat of primer. What do you guys think? I like it so far and it will look great behind  a 900/1600 class light 2-10-2.

Adam Draskovich

Dang Drasko, I had my doubts, but that does look good!
Since you're looking for feedback, I would probably try to round off the edges on the curved portions of back of the tender. Take the crease out and make it rounder?
Otto K.

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Re: Santa fe whaleback tenders. I'm back to modeling!
« Reply #31 on: December 03, 2015, 11:44:30 PM »
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I'll see about taking some more material out. I'm thinking about finding a router bit that might help keep the contour nice. I'll have to experiment a bit on some scraps. Otto, I emailed you my number. I'd like to discuss the big Hudson with you as I have some ideas that might work. Actually I'm pretty confident they will.

I'll need with another mdf shell this weekend and see about rounding off the edges some more. I'm almost scared to mess with this one now lol

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Re: Santa fe whaleback tenders. I'm back to modeling!
« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2015, 09:13:21 AM »
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Nice work, so far.   As the tender is unique, I did do a bit of research on the prototype.  It appears that these were the first 2-10-2s that
All Tramps Sent Free  ordered as pushers over Raton Pass.

I had been aware that the type evolved because ATSF had been using 2-10-0s as pushers over Raton.  As there were no turning facilities on either side, at the time, the locomotives ran light in reverse back over the hill.   This was causing premature wear on the two aft driver pair tyres and flanges.   The trailing idler truck served to guide the locomotive in reverse, thus allowing for more even wear on the drivers.   The USRA 2-8-8-2 is similar in that the trailing trucks look like an afterthought.   As some roads did use USRA 2-8-8-2s as pushers, the trailing truck was a necessity only to guide the locomotive in reverse, it provided little, if any, support for the firebox.   Supposedly the last class of B&O 2-8-8-0s were really USRA 2-8-8-2s with the trailing truck removed.   The B&O had turning facilities at their nasty main line grades.

All of this leads to a question about the lower profile of this unique tender.  I am assuming that the low profile was designed into it to allow the crew better vision when running in reverse.

Good topic; nice work.

draskouasshat

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Re: Santa fe whaleback tenders. I'm back to modeling!
« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2015, 10:26:56 AM »
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Yes they were designed for better sight while going back down the hill.

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Re: Santa fe whaleback tenders. I'm back to modeling!
« Reply #34 on: December 04, 2015, 11:35:12 AM »
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Nice work, so far.   As the tender is unique, I did do a bit of research on the prototype.  It appears that these were the first 2-10-2s that
All Tramps Sent Free  ordered as pushers over Raton Pass.
Good topic; nice work.

Nothing stated about the early ATSF 2-10-2's is inaccurate, but just so there isn't any confusion, the ten whaleback tenders were built new specifically for the ten 3000 2-10-10-2's in 1911. These were oil burners, and were used predominantly on Cajon Pass (Raton was cheap Colorado coal territory). At the time Cajon was a 3.4% single track ruling grade and these tenders came with backup pilots, and yes the low profile allowed for good visibility. After the "Malleys" were rebuilt back into 20 2-10-2's (1915-18) the whalebacks were assigned to various 900 and 1600 classes such as Drasko is modeling...
Below is a nice pic showing the 3000's in San Bernardino, with tops of the tenders showing lots of detail.
Otto K.
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Re: Santa fe whaleback tenders. I'm back to modeling!
« Reply #35 on: December 04, 2015, 11:47:43 AM »
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Yes they were designed for better sight while going back down the hill.

Adam Draskovich
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