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MT ATSF Eye Car
« on: October 06, 2015, 07:18:01 PM »
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First, does anyone have the prototype photo of this?  @Shipsure



Added scale icon....  :tommann:  :facepalm:  -gfh
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Re: MT ATSF Eye Car
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2015, 07:53:23 PM »
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I love this car. The compressed nature of the MT car is unfortunate, but something that I can live with. The graffiti from MT is great, and much better than what I can do with a decal. This is how it looks out of the box:



I added an ESM underframe that @bbussey was selling a few years ago to model the ATSF shock control underframe, complete with BLMA 70 ton trucks.



Next step, some weathering adjustments.
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Re: MT ATSF Eye Car
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2015, 08:09:03 PM »
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Can you glue in the stirrups higher so they touch the body?
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Re: MT ATSF Eye Car
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2015, 08:13:32 PM »
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I refrained from buying this one because it didn't seem to be a prototypical number.   I've seen photos of similar looking graffiti but this car seems to an 'inspired by' version of them.
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Re: MT ATSF Eye Car
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2015, 08:36:34 PM »
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Quote from: Chris333 on October 06, 2015, 08:09:03 PM
Can you glue in the stirrups higher so they touch the body?

Yes, yes I can.
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Re: MT ATSF Eye Car
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2015, 10:32:47 PM »
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The graffiti is very well done!
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Re: MT ATSF Eye Car
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2015, 11:11:31 PM »
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MT graffiti and printed weathering is so well done by MT because they use the perfect printer for the job.  These are printed on an ink jet  printer which produces a slightly fuzzy image which is very similar to what a spray can does on 1:1 car and how weathered areas would be. This is something that a screen, laser  (or Alps) printed decal cannot emulate well. Of course there is serious skill still involved in drawing the artwork, but using he right printer for the job helps a lot.
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Re: MT ATSF Eye Car
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2015, 08:28:41 AM »
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Hmmm...I wonder if @Shipsure will accept artwork?  What machine do they use, anyway?
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Re: MT ATSF Eye Car
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2015, 10:52:57 AM »
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This particular car was a mash up, though we generally, these days, use a proto pick and match the car as best we can.  As for submitted art...yes, I can use all the help I can get :)   lol   Sorry, can't talk about process or equipment, company policy at the moment.

Thanks Tom, as always, a huge fan of your work.

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Re: MT ATSF Eye Car
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2015, 10:57:22 AM »
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Quote from: tom mann on October 06, 2015, 07:53:23 PM
I love this car. The compressed nature of the MT car is unfortunate, but something that I can live with. The graffiti from MT is great, and much better than what I can do with a decal. This is how it looks out of the box:

https://www.therailwire.net/forum/Gallery/_DSC5186.jpg

I added an ESM underframe that @bbussey was selling a few years ago to model the ATSF shock control underframe, complete with BLMA 70 ton trucks.

https://www.therailwire.net/forum/Gallery/_DSC5187.jpg

Next step, some weathering adjustments.

I wouldnt say compressed... id say the car was completely wrong...
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3534525
that is its sister... #18204 and they are unique

(I killed IMG tags on purpose as to make it easier to read sorry)
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Re: MT ATSF Eye Car
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2015, 12:14:39 PM »
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Re: MT ATSF Eye Car
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2015, 12:34:48 PM »
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That car looks great.   I've pretty much given up on trying to get the weathered/graffiti'd cars as none of the local pushers seem to be able to get them, but that one would be a purchase if I came across one.

I did my research on this car as well....it's a little further off the "appropriate versus plausible" graph than I'd like, but I do take the art/overall look into consideration and this one would make the cut.   I also want to support MTL for being innovative here and doing what needs to be suggested in other companies' planning meetings.

However, having said all that, it should be noted that my opinion about decoration doesn't seem to be very well received around here.   So maybe it really just sucks.   :facepalm:

One note, Tom...be careful with the "weathering adjustments" as there have been horror stories of the printing disintegrating if you try to do any fading or anything involving alcohol. (application, and drinking)   I know you know what you're doing, just a reminder/FYI to you and others.
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Re: MT ATSF Eye Car
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2015, 02:06:36 PM »
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Quote from: Shipsure on October 07, 2015, 12:14:39 PM
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Lol, its cool I'm not that worried about it, I'm probably going to buy it anyways cause it looks good and its SF.
That and if anything I might try and find a smaller door to make it look closer to the proto... Idk...
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Re: MT ATSF Eye Car
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2015, 04:14:34 PM »
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Re: MT ATSF Eye Car
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