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Re: Lowering MT 39ft tankcar - couplers
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2014, 11:04:28 PM »
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I'm confused - the MT 1025 is spec'd at .275" above ht railhead, but MT 1015 is spec'd slightly higher at .279".
MT 2004 is too low (.226"), and tends to interfere with truck axles.

Spec's are all here:  http://www.micro-trains.com/Coupler%20diagrams.pdf

The orientation of the coupler box to the outer axle is the same regardless of the knuckle style.  MTL 1015-style coupler boxes will fit over BLMA and Atlas trucks as long as a flathead screw is used to mount the coupler and the recess is modified (with the twirl of an X-Acto blade) so that the screw head sits flush with the surface of the coupler box.

Any of the current design MTL knuckles (1015, 1016, 1019, 2001, 2004) will fit inside a 1015 coupler box.  In addition, Accu-Mate, McHenry, and MTL-clone couplers also fit in the MTL 1015 box.


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Re: Lowering MT 39ft tankcar - couplers
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2014, 01:16:51 AM »
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George:  I noticed the height difference the first time I bought 1015s.  Considering that my cars probably vary by at least 0.005 inches, and the prototype can vary more than that between empty and fully loaded, I consider them interchangeable.  If one is too high/low, the other one is too. 

The 1015 and 1025 mounting holes are also the same distance from the end, so I use whatever I have that clears the bolster.  New non-MT cars are getting 1015s because they're cheaper in bulk packs, while converted MT cars usually get 1025s recycled form the trucks.  500 pair of draft gear boxes and lids will go a long ways.  I'm surprised MT doesn't package and sell them for people who want body mounted couplers.  I special ordered mine two years ago.

Bryan:  I probably will buy the trucks.  Filing a hundred or so boxcars was bad enough, but there all I had to do was file the bolster flush with the center sill.  On the tank car it looks like the bolster has to be higher than the bottom of the center sill, which will require much more care in filing, and being plastic, it will be very easy to remove too much.  Besides, it will give me a chance to try the BLMA trucks as replacements.  So far the only ones I have are on their cars.

As for the holes, I tried drilling new ones, and it did work.  All five cars are drilled and tapped with no breakage.  I don't know how durable they will be, but since I don't run 100+ car trains, it shouldn't be a problem.  I never thought of using 1016s, and I do have a few in the junk box, since they used to package both shanks in a package for locomotives, and I used the 1015 on all of mine.

My latest 1015s already have the box countersunk for flathead screws, although MT still includes their standard screws.  I have four gross of 3/16 inch flatheads on order from J I Morris.
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Re: Lowering MT 39ft tankcar - couplers
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2014, 09:15:32 AM »
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"... I filed my share of Intermountain 40' boxcar bolsters, and now if I swap in BLMA trucks, I will have to shim them with washers.."

After you did that, what did you use for couplers?  Unmodified Intermountain cars take MT-1025, but after lowering I'm not sure what to use.
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George, I have used 1025s, like here (not a good profile pic, I know):


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Re: Lowering MT 39ft tankcar - couplers
« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2014, 10:28:08 AM »
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One thing to say in defense of the MTL car. It was tooled back at the end of the "dark days".

It's been around for a long time now. 20 years? 25 years?

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Re: Lowering MT 39ft tankcar - couplers
« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2014, 11:52:30 AM »
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Closer to 35 years.

The 3-dome, however, is from this decade.
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Re: Lowering MT 39ft tankcar - couplers
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2014, 01:08:10 AM »
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I also use MT 1025s on my Intermountain boxcars, and they work fine. 

Ed:  The tankcars I'm converting have been around for at least 20 years, because they came with us from the old house.   At least one is from their earliest runs.

Until we moved 17 years ago I had very little room for a layout, so concentrated on stockpiling equipment and materials.  There are still several dozen undecorated MT boxcar kits in storage....
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