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Pennsy Eriebuilt F-M's
« on: December 12, 2012, 11:19:35 PM »
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I have two old Eriebuilt shells and PA mechanisms to go with them. The PRR had two classes of them, FF20 and FP20. I have never seen any photos of an Pennsylvania Eriebuilt pulling a passenger train. Does anyone have one or know where one can be found?

By the way, does anyone know what Fairbanks-Morse called the Eriebuilts? Something like CFA-20? I'm pretty sure it didn't say "Eriebuilt" on the production order.

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Re: Pennsy Eriebuilt F-M's
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2012, 01:35:30 AM »
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By the way, does anyone know what Fairbanks-Morse called the Eriebuilts? Something like CFA-20? I'm pretty sure it didn't say "Eriebuilt" on the production order.

Frank Musick

Mairbanks-Morse didn't actually assemble the Eriebuilts since they didn't have room in thier Beloit WI shops.  They contracted to General Electric to build them in GE's Erie PA plant. Fairbanks-Morse didn't assign a model number to the Eriebuilts but rather refered to them by the individual GE construction number.  Since the raliroads refered to them as Eriebuilts, Fairbanks-Morse eventually used that term in their maintainance manuals.

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Re: Pennsy Eriebuilt F-M's
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2012, 07:01:27 PM »
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Hi Frank,

In the book Pennsylvania Railroad Diesel Locomotive Pictorial Volume Five Fairbanks-Morse Locomotives by Paul K Withers from Withers Publications there is a history of the Erie-builts.

The official designation of the units was Alt.100.3 and Alt.200.3 but because they were assembled at the GE Erie Built plant the became know as the Erie-builts.

It would appear they were built to three orders and were first built as FF-3, FF-3s and FF-2. Later they were re-classified as FF-20, FP-3 (Later FP-20a) and FF20. The FP-3 (FP-20a) were the second order and were A-B-A consist to make up the 6,000 HP units the Pennsy thought to be the optimal locomotive size. The last order were paired A-A units for helper service. The Units 9472-A to 9479-A  and 9472-B, 9474-B, 9476-B and 9478-B were the FP class and were fitted with steam generators. They were re-classified FF-20 between Oct 52 and Apr 53. By the end of 1963 all units had been removed from the roster and traded to GE on U25Bs. In the book there is a photo of a pair with 9476 leading  on train 208 the "Ohioan" and then there is another photo of another A-A pair running a train of four P70 variant coaches on a day train in Cleveland. Most appear to have spent their life in the Buckeye and Pittsburgh regions.

I do have a few B Units that were made from cut up A Units shells and cast by Raintree Models in the US. I recently bought a Pair on the bay complete with trainphone antennae. They are a beautiful pair of locomotives. Not as polished as the LL Sets but a lot more robust.

Hope this helps.

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Al
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Re: Pennsy Eriebuilt F-M's
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2012, 10:14:46 PM »
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Hi Frank,
These are the models I bought the other day:



The look and run great.

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Re: Pennsy Eriebuilt F-M's
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2012, 11:26:57 PM »
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Hi Frank,
There is a completed shell in PRR DGLE with antennae on eBay at present.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Superdetailed-PRR-N-scale-Erie-Built-body-shell-/290832246412?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item43b6f3e68c

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Al
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