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Re: Micro-Trains is now selling Bachmann locomotives?!
« Reply #30 on: July 05, 2012, 03:42:27 AM »
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You can see the new Atlas 4-4-0 trucks are solid mounted. As for wheel size I have drawings of a real one that list 25" wheels up front and 22" wheels on the tender.

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Re: Micro-Trains is now selling Bachmann locomotives?!
« Reply #31 on: July 05, 2012, 09:43:45 AM »
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As you can see, the tender wheels (which scale out to something like 16" diameter - not even remotely prototypical) are more like little rollers, not wheels.  The relatively large diameter axles (which are cast from white metal) fit into the holes in the wheels.  The small wheel has a hard time actually turning on those large diameter axles and on many factory models those wheels simply slide on the track without actually rolling!  Then the power from the axle assembly is transfer to brass strips under the tender by very fine springs.  This results in a poor pickup (which is exaggerated by the very short wheelbase) and lots of drag on those "roller" wheels.  Other than that, this locomotive is acceptable (if one ignores the black plastic leading truck wheels which also seem to be about 16" in diameter).

Peteski,
 As Chris pointed out, you are complaining about something that Bachmann basically got right. The tender wheels on these things were small. When you take into acount the flange size and how low the tender needed to set, the wheels are about as big as they can be. There are plenty of variations of the American loco, some had large tender wheels, some had small. They model they chose, happens to have small tender wheels.

The pickup on the most recent versions changed the metal that the tender axle chunks are made of. They are now plated and the tender wheels roll much easier. The only thing wrong with the spring pickup is if you stall one on a turnout, those springs turn into a lightbulb filament pretty quick, soften up, and loose any semblence of being a spring.

Could it be made in a better way, YES. Is it the only option out there available for sale at this time, YES.
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Re: Micro-Trains is now selling Bachmann locomotives?!
« Reply #32 on: July 05, 2012, 10:27:35 AM »
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I'd be willing to bet more Confederatesets sell than Union sets.

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Re: Micro-Trains is now selling Bachmann locomotives?!
« Reply #33 on: July 05, 2012, 01:55:24 PM »
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We are seeing some surprising trends with these sets :D

Again, when this set was under development the only loco we could get in quantity and on the schedule was the Bachmann Loco.  Micro Ace was not an option due to the price point and we were concerned about delivery.  Atlas announced their 4-6-0 later so initially it wasn't on the plate.  We have other sets planned and I think once we get going I would love to use the Atlas unit as well...gives us two different engines and that's a plus.

Thanks for the input and the heads up on the tender issues.  We will keep our eyes open.

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Re: Micro-Trains is now selling Bachmann locomotives?!
« Reply #34 on: July 05, 2012, 05:01:50 PM »
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Brokemoto, I was wondering when you'd chime in!  These sets seem right up your alley.

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Re: Micro-Trains is now selling Bachmann locomotives?!
« Reply #35 on: July 06, 2012, 01:15:00 PM »
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Well, there you have it...hell did freeze over.

If I were MicroTrains I would be looking at Kato, Athearn or Atlas to build me a stove.   

You won't find to much B-mann stuff running with MicroT's stuff on my layout.
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Re: Micro-Trains is now selling Bachmann locomotives?!
« Reply #36 on: July 06, 2012, 02:37:31 PM »
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We are seeing some surprising trends with these sets :D

Again, when this set was under development the only loco we could get in quantity and on the schedule was the Bachmann Loco.  Micro Ace was not an option due to the price point and we were concerned about delivery.  Atlas announced their 4-6-0 later so initially it wasn't on the plate.  We have other sets planned and I think once we get going I would love to use the Atlas unit as well...gives us two different engines and that's a plus.
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Joe, are you saying that Micro Trains was planning this set before Atlas announced their 2-6-0?!  That loco (Atlas/MicroAce 2-6-0) has been out for several years.  I bought bunch of them at a firehouse sale prices ($39) last year.  I suspect that you actually meant "Atlas 4-4-0".
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