Our order from Horizon (last Thurs.) on them all says "BO"(back-ordered, your guess when they will ship to stores). Bachmann ships to Bachmann USA in PA, then they ship to distributors, then they ship to stores. If I was betting a dollar, which I won't, I'd guess late September, early October, on shelves at stores. I could be off a month either way, and it wouldn't surprise me. Which is why I won't bet a buck.
