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jagged ben

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Re: Who knew little diesels needed a warm up?
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2024, 11:46:19 AM »
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Just to add, it's not only slow speeds where I see this.  In fact my most objective observations are at top speed, where I start my speed matching.  Almost all locos need at least a couple laps around my ~30"x36" test track oval before the speed more or less stabilizes. 

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Re: Who knew little diesels needed a warm up?
« Reply #16 on: Yesterday at 07:58:36 PM »
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While the great scientific debate on lube, delrin and chafing of parts has ensued, I switched out the DN163A0's (Series 3) for DN147A0's (Series 7). There was no hesitation in throttle response, they just crept along on the first notch (01) of the throttle. I then took the old DN163A0 decoder and put it in an early DCC ready GP-40 (pre-sound), and it did not exhibit the hesitation or sluggishness, it just crept along at the first notch.

Inspection of the motor between the GP-40 and the C420, the C420's show a greater skew of the armature. The winds of the armatures are almost indistinguishable without pulling it apart. I then compared it to Atlas GP-9's which had the same skew as the GP-40. At this point I am largely convinced this is a motor difference (not issue) and motor control capabilities of the old decoder. Given the change in decoders also changed the performance I am also leaning towards tehachapifan's point concerning the quality of the decoder.

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