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Tom: Interesting, and the C&EI books should be correct. I was going by what I heard from railroaders on the BN in the 1970s, none of whom were in the mechanical department. Since there were still a lot of 50-ton cars around, I just took their word for it.Just out of curiosity, if "The majority of the 70 ton trucks" were 5'8", what were the rest of them?