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The 1962 Wabash roster lists Emerald Park as an 8-4. Our late friend Jerry Laboda identified the sister car Emerald Vale as 8 sec.- 4 dbl bedroom. It strikes me that the Emerald cars may have sometimes subbed when an 8-5 was out of service. Emerald Vale was out of service by 1962, but as Mark5 noted, Emerald Park served to the end.New York University was a 12 sec. - 2 dbl bedroom car. Other "University" cars I can find of the same 12-2 configuration are identified as plan 4046, rebuilt from plan 2410F 12-1 cars.Here is a detail from the 1954 ORPTE with the names of the Wabash owned HW sleepers that were leased to Pullman for operation. They had 5 additional old HW sleepers that were on the property for other purposes . The car hidden under the Railwire watermark is the previously mentioned "Emerald Park"....
New challenge - I need to find out the number series for the Wabash RPO-Express cars - the 60' RPOs that had their RPO section shortened and replaced with a baggage area.I'm loosely representing this with a Micro-Trains RPO-Express, which is 70' and off in many details for the Wabash car, but as close as I can come without more work than I want to invest. But I need to know what number(s) to put on it. All the photos I have found of such cars don't have legible numbers
Hi George,I'm not sure what cars you are looking for (can't find pix of these, my books are boxed up), but Wabash had "Postal" cars with 60' inside length built by ACF in the 1910s. The number series was 162-179. They retained these numbers on N&W, though only 162, 167, 175, and 179 survived the 1964 merger. All were off the roster by the end of 1967.
Sorry, I missed this when it was posted. Those 4 cars are, indeed, the 4 full 60' RPOs. (per the Banner Fall 1996 issue on Head End Cars). The last of the 60' mail-baggage cars (rebuilt from the other numbers in the 162-179 series beginning in 1923 and renumbered to numbers in the 400s) were essentially replaced in 1963 by purchase of 70' mail baggage cars second hand from C&O and numbered Wabash 451-456.There were more of them, or there was some early renumbering- there is a builder's photo in the same Banner issue of 60' RPO # 182 .Wabash numbering of mail baggage is a bit confusing. The cars rebuilt from the 162-179 series had numbers 430-446, but in the middle were a few cars built new by ACF (one of which was 436) with 15' mail compartments, and 2 baggage doors on each side, and appear to be 70' overall. And then cars 447-450, which were rebuilt from combines, the first 2 in the 40s or early 50s, the latter 2 in the late 50s or early 60s- these cars were about 74', with 30' mail rooms and 2 baggage doors each side).The 4 full RPOs were originally built in the 3-3/4-2 window pattern resembling the MTL model. At some point prior to 1950 (I think), they were rebuilt with 6 windows together at one end, more like the Atlas model, although the window spacing is door- 3 windows in original (MTL) spacing- 3 windows closer together-blank space- door (I hope that makes sense) That spacing might not apply to all 4, but the couple photos I've seen where I can identify numbers (175,179) are both that way.
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