A friend of mine (who is an HO modeller) bought one of their HO flat cars and, upon inspecting it, thought it had very similar construction to a Bachmann car. After looking at it an pictures online, it was basically clone of the Bachmann flatcar, right down to the roadnumber! Only differences seemed to be different colors of plastic on some parts (the deck, I think). Was not a horrible car, but not worth what he paid for it considering it was just a Bachmann car (no identifying marks on the car at all, though).