P&LE open hopper roster

[bman]

Having acquired a trio of P&LE loco's I'd looking into modeling a unit coal train for the road.  I've spent a few hours scouring the web for some photo's and information on P&LE open hoppers.  There is the Blueford Shops car which I'm guessing has an older version paint scheme in looking at photo's of ex-P&LE hoppers in stone service over on the W&LE and where the paint out of the former owner is located.  And then I've seen the Atlas 90 ton car and the logo in larger yellow letters applied.  I believe Atlas also did another scheme ages ago on the 90 ton car but I stripped and painted those cars years ago before this idea struck me.  Does anyone have any info on the roster and paint variations of 2 versions of these open hoppers?  I'm guessing for the late 70's to mid 80's a mix of the 2 would be the norm.  From what little I have seen from this time frame the Blueford car has the reporting mark and car number on the left in the older P&LE(NYC? since they were part owners) font.  Then the Atlas car with the "P&LE" in larger  yellow numbers applied mid car and reporting mark and car number on the left in a more generic font.  I've the book The P&LE in Color, Vol 1, but most shots are of head end power making it almost impossible to see the cars behind.  The same is true for the P&LE Historical Society web page(and not updated since 2013 at that).  Any help or thoughts would be appreciated.  Here's the best pic I've found for what I'm trying to do

https://www.flickr.com/photos/85501582@N03/11011633876/in/photostream/

[prr7161]

Have you checked out the Fallen Flags info?

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/ple/ple-frt.html

Scroll down a bit and there are about a half-dozen photos of the HT hoppers, plus a roster - no date given on the roster, but from the looks of it, it dates at least from the PC / early Conrail era.

The Bluford scheme with the NYC System logo is definitely too old for the 70's and 80's except for maybe a few beaters left around.

[bman]

Thanks. I'm there over morning coffee most days.  Also I have worn out rrpicturearchieves.  There's also railcarphotos but no open hoppers out of 25 photos.  I did see the roster on fallen flags but the 8xxxx series cars are not listed.  I'm guessing this batch of cars were the only ones to get this paint scheme.  The photo on Fallen flags has a date of 1978.   I'm trying to closely follow the prototype, the appeal to me for modeling, and have found no info on when these were acquired.  But using that photo date and I see no reason that date would be incorrect. 1978 works for the locos I have were on the P&LE from 1975 until 1985.  What muddies the waters, for me at least, is the next release of 14 panel hoppers from Blueford has C&O cars listed and having been acquired from the PL&E.  I think I need to email him and see what info he on the PL&E cars.  Should have done that first I guess.