1960s Sealand container help

[sirenwerks]

I was thumbing through Kalmbach's Trains of the 1960s and in the photo spread on page 76 and 77, taken Spetember 1968, there's a tarp-covered Sealand container I want to find more info on.  Can anyone help me find better images of the Sealand container on the flat directly behind the EL units in this photo detail:





Thanks,


Bryan

[Scottl]

Try this:  http://www.matts-place.com/intermodal/part1/sea_containers1.htm

[wcfn100]

Top one here?




Jason

[sirenwerks]

Thanks, Scott.  I wasn't able to find anything early enough that resembled the trailer, with its extended corner posts and even panel spacing.  I did find this on the WOT site:





It brings me a little closer, though I'd like more still. I am really curious what the 'door' end would look like on an early open-top container like this.  Would it be actual doors?


(MOD - Jason, looks like we cross-posted.  Great minds and all that... Thanks.  It looks very much like the WOT container, which would be a good start for this conversion.)

[jagged ben]

Top one here?




Jason

What's the source for the image?  And can you assign a date to it?

[sirenwerks]

The tractor attached to the SeaLand marketing pic posted on the Wheels of Time site is a 1962(ish) GMC L; the bottom cab is a Ford C cab of 1957 to 1963 vintage (pretty sure it's not a later model).  It stands to reason SeaLand would use its newest trucks in the photo so we're probably talking 1962-1963 for the WOT pic.  The original EL pic I posted is dated September 1968.

[Spikre]

 
   the Sealand Terminal was located on the Hoboken Shore RR.
   slightly below Weehawken.
   Erie/EL could serve them directly from the Weehawken Branch
  next to the Hoboken Shore tracks.
  once got a pic of a Hoboken Shore GE 44 Tonner,but never saw
  any activity on the line in later visits.
     Spikre
         

[Snark45]

Anyone happen to know what color those Sealand COE's were?

Thanks in advance.    Harry

[Spikre]

 
  maybe a Dark Green ?
   but maybe thinking of different trucks seem around 1970 ?
    Spikre
         

[bman]

I don't see why the doors would be any different than the ones on a standard container swing door  from the same manufacturer.  I've spent some time open top trailers (not in the 60's due to child labor laws) and 1 open top(tarped of course) and the doors were the same as any other swing door.  Looking at the front and rear of the photo both those ends appear to me as the same height and front and ends of the dry box container below it, leading me to believe the doors are probably the same in that era as well.  Standardized pieces making repairs and/or replacement much easier.  The only questions I have is are there supports running from side to side on the open top container, and is the top rail beefier than the dry box counterpart? Looking at more modern open top containers it looks like they do have stronger top rails and supports from side to side.  I never got to see the open top container without the tarp on as it was arriving at the terminal and I was leaving and after a 14 hour day.  I was headed back to the hotel and wasn't in a very inquisitive mood at the time.