Early car carrier identification

[garethashenden]

Bit out of my era, but are the car carriers in the picture the same as in this kit? http://www.nscalekits.co.uk/milwautocarrier.html



Interesting to see them on the B&M, N Scale Kits makes it sound like they only went west...

[prbharris]

Bit out of my era, but are the car carriers in the picture the same as in this kit? http://www.nscalekits.co.uk/milwautocarrier.html Interesting to see them on the B&M, N Scale Kits makes it sound like they only went west...

Yes - they are the same [or very similar] trailers - I was aware that the cars went east from Detroit too!

With the kit we include a sheet of decals [with Clark, Commercial Carriers, Eastern Forwarding, Janesville, and Stuart Auto Transport Cos decals] for the leased and owned autocarriers that ran on the intermodal cars of roads such as Chicago & North Western, Milwaukee Road and the PRR. I will add the B&M to this list now as well. Thanks for the update.

Peter

Peter Harris
N Scale Kits
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[garethashenden]

Cool. I thought they were the same. If anyone is interested here's the whole video.

[x600]

These trailer were also used on the Erie Lackawanna. There is a discussion now on the ELHS of the derailment in 1963
near Port Jervis, NY of an E-L train with empty car trailers, that were destroyed in the wreck.
A comment was made that the trailers carried American Motors vehicles from Kenosha, Wi. to NJ. and returned them empty.
The cars would have been interchanged near Chicago. No mention of what railroad they were picked up from. Mil, CB&Q maybe.

Newspaper clipping of the wreck. bottom photo shows the mangled auto trailers.
http://lists.railfan.net/erielack-photo/erielack-02-04-15/99_wreck_1963_2.jpg

Greg O.
   

[prbharris]

These trailer were also used on the Erie Lackawanna...the trailers carried American Motors vehicles from Kenosha, Wi. to NJ. and returned them empty. The cars would have been interchanged near Chicago. No mention of what railroad they were picked up from. Mil, CB&Q maybe. Greg O

Thanks for that Greg - the wreck site looks just like some of our mangled etches on our first attempt - the result of a miscommunication with the etch machine! I think that the trailers were all run as leased trailers with different auto trailer companies taking them on to dealers. If the EL folks have any further data on which paint schemes the trailers carried, we can add them to the decal sheet too.

Peter
Peter Harris
www.nscalekits.com

[Catt]

Does anyone make a modern day auto carrier in N scale.Would like a Z scale version too,but I think building that would put me over the edge.

[x600]

Catt, Train Cat makes this, not sure of it's availability.  You need your own tractor, GHQ's Peterbilt works.
http://store.traincat2.com/Triple-Auto-Carrier-n/

Peter, Not sure of others, but the American Motors products were mostly shipped on KAT (Kenosha Auto Transport) trailers.
KAT was "associated" with AMC.

Greg O.

[Spikre]

 
  there are also pictures of Studebakers on trailers heading west on CB&Q.
  NuCar Carriers:
   they hauled trailers of Fords out of Mahwah,2 questions:
   did they ever put trailers on flat cars ?
   did they operate at any other Ford Plants ?
     Spikre
     

[prbharris]

American Motors products were mostly shipped on KAT (Kenosha Auto Transport) trailers.KAT was "associated" with AMC. Greg O.

Greg

Thanks - we have decals for KAT [their inverted red triangle scheme] and also Eastern Auto Forwarding, Stuart Transport Engineering, Janesville Auto [JATCo], Clark Transport and Commercial Carriers for these single axle carriers. Thanks for the help.

Peter

Peter Harris
N Scale Kits
www.nscalekits.com

[prbharris]

there are also pictures of Studebakers on trailers heading west on CB&Q.

Spikre - thanks for this

did they ever put trailers on flat cars ?

In the 1960's this is how many autos were being transported direct from plants on these autotrailers. There are pictures of quite a number of trailers on different railroads, single and double axle trailers. Some auto trailers were specifically designed to go on different types of flat cars [such as the Clejan spine car - out of Van Nuys in CA, and the FlexiVan on the Milwaukee Road] The single axle carrier appeared on quite a number of flat cars.

Not sure, as I have not researched every style of autocarriers - I am sure that there are some who could answer this with evidence too.

Peter

Peter Harris
N Scale Kits
www.nscalekits.com