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kelticsylk

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Kato Gear Train
« on: October 24, 2013, 09:02:34 AM »
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My Kato steamers do that runaway train act going downhill. I've read somewhere around here that this has something to do with gear lash. Is this common with these mechanisms? Is there an adjustment?

I would like the thing (ans my other locomotives) to run at a constant speed like my ER sharks.

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Re: Kato Gear Train
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2013, 01:38:15 PM »
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What Kato steam would this be?  The Mikado?
The problem (at least in that case) is that the Mikado is geared way too fast.
Any loco that is geared fast requires the motor to run at very low speed to get
a good loco speed that isn't up in the slot-car region.  The problem with that is
that it requires a lot more torque from the motor.  As you go up hills, you have
to increase the voltage to the motor to keep up with the heavy load on it, and when
you go down hill, all the load comes off, so the motor speeds up.

If you are using DCC with BEMF, that can help.  But you still have the problem that with
such a high gear ratio, a downhill train is more like "freewheeling".   Thing about how it
feels to go downhill on a 10-speed bike when you are in a lower gear vs a higher gear,
or how your car feels coasting down a steep hill in "D" vs when you put it in "L".

I don't know that there is much you can do about it.   This is one of the many reasons I am
such a big fan of extra gearheads when I remotor engines.  They add an extra 4:1 reduction
in the gears, which obviously helps low-speed operation, but it also evens out
the up/down hill speed and the speed around curves, because the motor load is so drastically
reduced and because a train cannot "run away" down a hill so easily.

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Re: Kato Gear Train
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2013, 03:21:14 PM »
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It is the Mikado. I have two of them. Thanks for the explanation. Is replacing the motor the only option or can the gears themselves be replaced with NWSL parts?

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Re: Kato Gear Train
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2013, 03:43:29 PM »
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It is the Mikado. I have two of them. Thanks for the explanation. Is replacing the motor the only option or can the gears themselves be replaced with NWSL parts?

I didn't know that NWSL made replacement gears for N scale Kato Mikados.
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Re: Kato Gear Train
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2013, 09:03:24 PM »
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I didn't know that NWSL made replacement gears for N scale Kato Mikados.
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I don't know if they do specifically, but they have a whole catalog of gears. I think they will even help you try to find the right set, but have never tried that.