No roofwalks?

[Bsklarski]

Im going to say that IM is going to do these and the CP cars WO roofwalks? Or did they just forget to add them to the sample?

[Ed Kapuscinski]

Based on the bling on the car (wheel dot, COTS stencil and ACI label), they're definitely post-roofwalk cars, so it'd make sense.

[SkipGear]

Considering the picture of the car you posted is marked with ACI labels, it's very possilble that the roofwalks were removed as both were happening around the same time.

[cv_acr]

That CN paint scheme dates to 1961+
The ACI labels were used from the mid-1960s until 1977 (but would remain on cars for decades after the system was discontinued)
The U-1 wheel inspection dot (yellow circle on black square) was applied to cars in 1978.
The COTS panel is a 1970s style.
New cars started being built without roofwalks somewhere around 1966, and roofwalks were removed from cars throughout the 1970s.

Since the wheel dot places this car as 1978+, the lack of roofwalk is totally appropriate.

[Bsklarski]

thank you guys..

Im going to say that if 1978 looks about right for this car, then its perfectly in the middle of my time frame.

[wcfn100]

Roller bearings trucks?   



Jason

[cv_acr]

Roller bearings trucks?   



Jason

I didn't even catch that. Yeah, those look a little beefy for this car, like 100T trucks. This car should definately have lower capacity plain-bearing trucks.... although given the time period they might actually be converted trucks with roller bearings inside the journal box. Sometimes the journal covers would be removed on converted trucks, but not always, so the only real visual difference could be in the wheel weathering.

[Bsklarski]

Im hoping they are 70t trucks. I still see boxcars coming to us with build dates of 1972, 1974, ect with 70t trucks.

[cv_acr]

Im hoping they are 70t trucks. I still see boxcars coming to us with build dates of 1972, 1974, ect with 70t trucks.

Yeah but that's not a 1970s built 70ton car. More like a 50 ton 1940s/1950s car.

[Bsklarski]

Then its the easy way out and buy replacement trucks 

[bbussey]

I'm surprised they didn't use the MTL Symington Ride Control trucks, which clearly are 70-ton trucks.  It must be that the prototype ran on trucks visually closer to the MTL Barber trucks.

They can always be changed to the BLMA ASF Ride Control 70-ton trucks, which would lower the car to a better height as well.

[cv_acr]

I'm surprised they didn't use the MTL Symington Ride Control trucks, which clearly are 70-ton trucks.  It must be that the prototype ran on trucks visually closer to the MTL Barber trucks.

Not really.
Same series:

http://canadianfreightcargallery.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=cn537672&o=cn

[lock4244]

They can always be changed to the BLMA ASF Ride Control 70-ton trucks, which would lower the car to a better height as well.

That is exactly what I'll be doing to mine.

[fifer]

Not really.
Same series:

http://canadianfreightcargallery.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=cn537672&o=cn

Great Picture post Chris. I love that car !

Mike